Japan declaring war question

[moompix]

@Gharen:

Here is a link to Larry Harris Game Design website where a person posted asking the exact same questions as the original poster of this forum post and took a shot at answering his own questions.  Krieghund replied by saying the poster was correct in assuming that at the moment Japan declares war on any of the Allied players, all units on the board are instantly hostile and don’t wait until each subsequent factions turn to declare war on Japan to attack.
http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2152&hilit=Declaration+of+war

That question was asked and answered prior to the release of the official errata. It was based on the wording in the book, which has been replaced.

The replaced wording was a big improvement, but a few details were over looked. Which may have resulted in a few unintended consequences.

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It’s possible to dig up past forum posts by Krieghund that are contrary to the current rules. So, they aren’t 100% right.

[TexCapPrezJimmy]

@Mino1124:

I didn’t mean you were upset with krieg but you seemed to be upset with others because they told how they interpretted.

Don’t worry about him, he’s just ticked off that he’s been outfoxed on his premature Calcutta invasion and is hoping to get out of it with some rule minutia. Maybe once Kreighund confirms what we all know he’ll resort to the tried-and-true technique of sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling “La La La La La La.”

[jim010]

I didn’t mean you were upset with krieg but you seemed to be upset with others because they told how they interpretted.

Understood

[Gharen]

I personally hope that it is all the units of your enemies become hostile that instant rather than waiting til each subsequent turn for them to be able to become hostile, it would just simplify this issue.

[Krieghund]

Jim is correct.  An attack by Japan on the UK/ANZAC does not result in an immediate state of war with the US.  It merely gives the US permission to declare war on Japan on its next turn.

[Gwlachmai]

@TexCapPrezJimmy:

@Mino1124:

I didn’t mean you were upset with krieg but you seemed to be upset with others because they told how they interpretted.

Don’t worry about him, he’s just ticked off that he’s been outfoxed on his premature Calcutta invasion and is hoping to get out of it with some rule minutia. Maybe once Kreighund confirms what we all know he’ll resort to the tried-and-true technique of sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling “La La La La La La.”

Ruh roh…outfoxer or outfoxie?

[jim010]

Thanks for the quick response, Krieg!  That was all I needed.

Cheers

[jim010]

Ruh roh…outfoxer or outfoxie?

Neither, as we just played past it.  But now we know for the future that block with another ally won’t work.

[oztea]

oh noes
the US phillipines destroeyer cant block an invasion of india
i guess the british destroyer will have to do the job

[jim010]

That was only 1 example were there was a substitution available.  I was thinking of other situation preventing hits on other areas.

[Mino1124]

@Krieghund:

Jim is correct.  An attack by Japan on the UK/ANZAC does not result in an immediate state of war with the US.  It merely gives the US permission to declare war on Japan on its next turn.

Okay but just to make sure if UK is at war ANZAC is AUTOMATICALLY at war and visa versa right?

[Gharen]

Yes that is in the rulebook, they are essentially one gigantic power split into 2 smaller ones.  Attack one, you go to war with the other.  Same with Japan attacking the DEI islands not held by UK at the start, it automatically declares war on both Anzac and UK by doing so.

[Autarch]

@Krieghund:

Jim is correct.  An attack by Japan on the UK/ANZAC does not result in an immediate state of war with the US.  It merely gives the US permission to declare war on Japan on its next turn.

So much for simplicity.  :-P

Wait a minute, does this mean the US DOESN"T have to declare war on their next turn? Or ever?

:lol:

[Panz3r L3ad3r]

@Autarch:

@Krieghund:

Jim is correct.  An attack by Japan on the UK/ANZAC does not result in an immediate state of war with the US.  It merely gives the US permission to declare war on Japan on its next turn.

So much for simplicity.  :-P

Wait a minute, does this mean the US DOESN"T have to declare war on their next turn? Or ever?

:lol:

exactly, but i think no one will not enter in game with usa…

[moompix]

@Autarch:

Wait a minute, does this mean the US DOESN"T have to declare war on their next turn? Or ever?

No. They don’t. They might not want to, if they want to make non-combat moves through sea zones containing Japanese ships.

They will have to declare war at the start of their turn 3 collect income phase no matter what. That’s not optional.

[Krieghund]

Yes, it is.  The US may declare war on Japan at that time no matter what.  It’s not forced to do so.

[Gwlachmai]

So really as the US player I could just sandbag and let the Axis win, if say the UK player doesn’t chip in for pizza (again)?

[Autarch]

I think I’ll call this the Roosevelt Keeps His Campaign Promise strategy.  :lol:

[Gharen]

Yeah that would be hilarious to screw your teammates cause one forgot to bring beer over, which means as playing as the US I would buy infantry and anti aircraft guns to protect Alaska and my crab fishing grounds.