L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II

[Myygames]

Thanks for the rematch.

I will use TrippleA version 2.5, which we used in our previous game. If you want to change version pls let me know and I can rebuild G1 no issue.

BTW I am located in Western Germany, south of the major. So GMT+1 I think.

[Myygames]

@GovZ

New bid: Subs in 37, 91, 98, 106 = 24; Factory in Egypt = 12 (36); Inf in London = 3 (39); 1 IPC each to Russia, India, ANZAC = 3 (42).

Good Luck have fun!

[Myygames]

@GovZ

Heres the start safe

myygames vs GovZ_START.tsvg

[Myygames]

@GovZ

myygames vs GovZ_G1CM.tsvg

You may scramble to 110 and / or 111

[GovZ]

@Myygames

This save file has the sub in 109, not 106. I’m not sure if that will change up your moves at all.

[GovZ]

@Myygames said in L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II:

Thanks for the rematch.

I will use TrippleA version 2.5, which we used in our previous game. If you want to change version pls let me know and I can rebuild G1 no issue.

Thanks for the rematch. Good (low) luck. I’m good staying in 2.5. I’m also fine if you want to move to 2.6.

Hey German boats! Looks like we will be playing a completely different game. That’s good for me considering how badly I lost the last one.

Please feel free to start G1 totally over if the bid sub moving changes your opening.

[Myygames]

@GovZ said in L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II:

@Myygames

This save file has the sub in 109, not 106. I’m not sure if that will change up your moves at all.

Sorry for the mistake, will correct that with my G1.

I will not change my CM. You may scramble into 110 and/ or 111, and your sub in 106 may dive or fight. Let me know.

[GovZ]

@Myygames

SZ111 - Scramble. OOL - tip BS, Cr, DD, BS, F

SZ110 - Scramble all 3. OOL - sink the boats 1st.

SZ106 - Sub fights. If you hit & I don’t, sink the DD & submerge the sub. If we both hit, sink the sub.

[Myygames]

@GovZ said in L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II:

@Myygames

SZ111 - Scramble. OOL - tip BS, Cr, DD, BS, F

SZ110 - Scramble all 3. OOL - sink the boats 1st.

SZ106 - Sub fights. If you hit & I don’t, sink the DD & submerge the sub. If we both hit, sink the sub.

I am just now doing 106. your subs first strike did not hit an I hit. your OOL is not so clear here since I do not know if your DD will hit and need to select casualties for britain. I will interprete this as “you hit and I dont” and sink DD and submerge. Hope you agree in this situation.

[Myygames]

@GovZ

myygames vs GovZ_GER1.tsvg

This is a very fortunate start for germany!

Russia is up (and dont forget the eastern units)

[GovZ]

@Myygames

myygames-vs-govz_r1.tsvg

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 fighter and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Russians

    Combat - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
        2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Sikang
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang
        1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Sikang
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Kazakhstan
        2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
        3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
        2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine

    Place Units - Russians
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
        1 fighter and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

[GovZ]

@Myygames said in L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II:

This is a very fortunate start for germany!

The extra hit on the ‘1’ in 110 really hurts. I was hoping for a chance to take out another plane. At least the last ‘4’ hit for me.

[GovZ]

@Myygames said in L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II:

I am just now doing 106. your subs first strike did not hit an I hit. your OOL is not so clear here since I do not know if your DD will hit and need to select casualties for britain. I will interprete this as “you hit and I dont” and sink DD and submerge. Hope you agree in this situation.

It ended up in the correct place so no worries. This is exactly the situation gamerman was talking about in the league discussion thread. TripleA is forcing a casualty choice before the destroyer rolls when it shouldn’t.

[Myygames]

@GovZ

myygames-vs-govz_jap1.tsvg

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
              Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
              Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Hunan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
        2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
              Japanese take French Indo China from French

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Siberia
        Battle in Hunan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/0 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            Japanese win, taking Siberia from Russians, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/1 hits, 3,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        2 fighters moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Shantung
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 artillery moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Shantung
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Shantung
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Shantung
        1 fighter moved from Korea to Shantung
        2 fighters moved from Japan to Shantung
        2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Shantung
        1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Shantung
        1 fighter moved from Formosa to 36 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
        4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria

    Place Units - Japanese
        2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 factory_minor placed in Manchuria

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0,00
Japanese regular : 0,67

[GovZ]

@Myygames

myygames-vs-govz_uk1_cm.tsvg

SZ95: Scramble? Submerge? OOL?

[Myygames]

@GovZ said in L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II:

@Myygames

myygames-vs-govz_uk1_cm.tsvg

SZ95: Scramble? Submerge? OOL?

No scramble, dive the sub.

[GovZ]

@Myygames

myygames-vs-govz_uk1.tsvg

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        2 aaGuns, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States

    Place Units - Americans
        1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
        3 fighters placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
        2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi

    Place Units - Chinese
        4 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 97 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 95 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 95 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 95 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in 95 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
            1 submarine owned by the Italians submerged
                British roll dice for 2 submarines in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 transport owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 95 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Germans defend with 2 submarines
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 fighter could not land in 95 Sea Zone and was removed
        1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
        1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 artillery moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
        1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
              British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 fighter moved from Burma to India
        2 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
        3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from India to Burma
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
              UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
        1 battleship and 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

    Place Units - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Malta: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.00
Italians regular : 0.83
Japanese regular : -1.00
Germans regular : 0.17
British regular : 1.33

[GovZ]

@GovZ said in L24 OOB Myygames (X) vs GovZ (A+42) Game II:

        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Germans defend with 2 submarines
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines

The captain of that destroyer is getting a raise.

        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Malta: 1 fighter

FYI - You killed a fighter in the SZ95 battle. Of course TripleA killed the fighter from Malta with 2 moves left instead of the fighter from Gib with only 1 left. That one crashed in NCM, so I added the Malta fighter back.

[Myygames]

@GovZ Both seems reasonable: The raise for the captain and the fighter in Malta.

[Myygames]

@GovZ

myygames-vs-govz_ITA1_CM.tsvg

You may dive the 2 subs in 95 or fight with them. If they fight, pls also confirm sub-sub-cru as OOL.