L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3


  • @ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

    I dont get the dd buy for z6? Seems like a waste both times you went for it. I have no shortage of air and subs

    Maybe I’m too tired. The idea anyway was to prefent shore bombardment. But then I changed my setup and forgot to change the placement. Or something.


  • Maybe I mixed things up with another game.

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    Kami’s can do that, btw


  • @ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

    You going to bed or you up for ool in 97 in a few

    I can barely keep my eyes open. Have to sleep. I suspect UK will be a handful as well.

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    Sounds good

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    it does force some of my air to move slightly out of position so I am not saying you shouldn’t deploy your dd to z6 but if you wanted to cancel deployment that would be fine too. You dont get a refund but I think you can choose not to deploy and deploy it next turn. if thats legal? I cant remember if you are force to place units if possible. Otherwise I dont care if you change your buy and choose against buying it. But feel free to leave it there as well. Anyways, Im waiting till you are around as I will need your input on UK turn anyway so Ill wait till tomorrow.


  • @ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

    it does force some of my air to move slightly out of position so I am not saying you shouldn’t deploy your dd to z6 but if you wanted to cancel deployment that would be fine too. You dont get a refund but I think you can choose not to deploy and deploy it next turn. if thats legal? I cant remember if you are force to place units if possible. Otherwise I dont care if you change your buy and choose against buying it. But feel free to leave it there as well. Anyways, Im waiting till you are around as I will need your input on UK turn anyway so Ill wait till tomorrow.

    Thanks! I think that’s it. In my game with a-d I’ve run out of kami’s, but I haven’t here. That’s likely the mix up.

    The rules state that I have to deploy if possible. Think sz37 is available, but I’ll look now.


  • Ok, looked quickly. If I build it in 37 you may attack it, so that might change your CM. I don’t want it to happen to you. I’ll change the purchase then exchanging the sz6 des and an inf for a tac in Japan.

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    getting ready to post uk so if you are around for ool in 97 that would be great

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    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 13

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 13
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British repair damage of 2x factory_major; Remaining resources: 43 PUs; 
            British buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 7 submarines moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
                  British take Bulgaria from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania
                  British take Albania from Italians
            2 submarines moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame

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    ok 13 hits good start for italy

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    you have 2 ss, 5 dd, 5 cv, 2 ca, 2 tac, 2 bb, 8 ftrs

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    i would assume both subs, ding bbs, and then 5 cv hits, and 4 dds

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    @trulpen ok first round was obvious, On d you scored 10 hits, I sank 2 cvs, 2 dds, 4 ss.

    Second round i got 12 hits. you have 5 damaged cvs, 1 dd, 2 ca, 2 tac, 8 ftrs, 2 damaged bbs

    I would assume max d on out with bbs last but I will wait for you

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    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 13

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 13
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British repair damage of 2x factory_major; Remaining resources: 43 PUs; 
            British buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 7 submarines moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
                  British take Bulgaria from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania
                  British take Albania from Italians
            2 submarines moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 17 fighters, 9 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Americans loiter and taunt
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports
                    British roll dice for 9 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Italians
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 17 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 12/25 hits, 12.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 2 carriers owned by the Italians
                    Italians roll dice for 2 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 8 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 10/24 hits, 12.00 expected hits
                    4 destroyers owned by the Italians, 2 destroyers owned by the British, 2 submarines owned by the Italians, 4 submarines owned by the British and 2 carriers owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 5 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 cruisers, 17 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 11/23 hits, 11.83 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    British : -4.00
    Italians : -2.33
    

    Savegame

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    @ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

    @trulpen ok first round was obvious, On d you scored 10 hits, I sank 2 cvs, 2 dds, 4 ss.

    Second round i got 12 hits. you have 5 damaged cvs, 1 dd, 2 ca, 2 tac, 8 ftrs, 2 damaged bbs

    I would assume max d on out with bbs last but I will wait for you

    actually with potential subs around maybe you would do it differently so thats why I have to wait.


  • I’ll check.

    I think I’ll go with what you thought. Max d and the bs last. G priority over I.

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    since you say ill check I will wait until you have checked.


  • I’ll go with that.

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    TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 13

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 13
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Americans takes Philippines from Japanese
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 6 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            2 bombers moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            2 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Guam to Philippines
    
        Combat - Americans
            Air Battle in Southern Italy
                Americans attacks with 5 units heading to Southern Italy
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in Southern Italy
                    AA fire in Southern Italy : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in Southern Italy rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: airfield
                Bombing raid in Southern Italy causes 3 damage total. 
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 fighters in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 10 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 10 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 10 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Caucasus
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                Americans win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Philippines
            Cleaning up after air battles
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 battleship, 11 carriers, 2 cruisers, 8 destroyers, 7 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to Midway
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Queensland to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Midway to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 93 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
            2 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 marine moved from Cyprus to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Greece to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone
            EDIT: Americans undo move 27.
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Malta to Crete
            1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 marine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 93 Sea Zone
            1 harbour placed in Crete
            1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
            4 fighters placed in Eastern United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,6,1,5,3,5,3,6,4,4,5,6,1,3,3,3,2,4,3,3,3,5,6,3,2,2,6,1,4,4,2,1,6
            Americans collect 62 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 64 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 84 PUs
            Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 89 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 94 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 99 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 104 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 109 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 2 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British repair damage of 2x factory_major; Remaining resources: 43 PUs; 
            British buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 7 submarines moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
                  British take Bulgaria from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania
                  British take Albania from Italians
            2 submarines moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 17 fighters, 9 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Americans loiter and taunt
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports
                    British roll dice for 9 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Italians
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 17 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 12/25 hits, 12.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 2 carriers owned by the Italians
                    Italians roll dice for 2 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 8 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 10/24 hits, 12.00 expected hits
                    4 destroyers owned by the Italians, 2 destroyers owned by the British, 2 submarines owned by the Italians, 4 submarines owned by the British and 2 carriers owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 5 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 cruisers, 17 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 11/23 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 8 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 12/20 hits, 10.67 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 2 cruisers owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 4 cruisers owned by the British, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Italians, 3 submarines owned by the British, 5 fighters owned by the British and 3 carriers owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 2 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 12 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 5/14 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 6 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 5/6 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                    5 fighters owned by the Germans and 5 fighters owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 2 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 7 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 5 : 6/9 hits, 4.83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 fighter in 97 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 transports owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 64
                Casualties for British: 2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 11 fighters and 7 submarines
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Battle in Scotland
                British attack with 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 3 infantry in Scotland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Scotland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Scotland
                British win, taking Scotland from Germans with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour and 13 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 aaGun moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            8 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Algeria to 94 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
            6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Egypt
    
        Place Units - British
            1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : -0.67
    British : -3.00
    Italians : 0.33
    AA fire in Southern Italy : : 0.67
    Americans : 0.00
    Japanese : -0.33
    

    Savegame

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