AAE Scenario: Europe 1939 (France, USA, Germany, Britain, USSR, Italy)

[cyan]

@Admiral_Thrawn:

You must teach me the ways of play by forum.

we will use the in house dice. i think you already have the hang of it
;aaa n@h n@h n@h;
replace ; with  :
replace n with the number of units of that type
replace h with the hit value of that unit

so belrussia: 3inf, 1 art vs. 2inf, 1 tank, s.
Rolls: 2@1 2@2; Total Hits: 12@1: (2, 6)2@2: (4, 1)vs.
Rolls: 2@2 1@3; Total Hits: 12@2: (6, 2)1@3: (4)

[cyan]

Round 2- belrussia 1inf, 1 art vs. 1 inf, 1 tank
Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (1, 3)vs.
Rolls: 1@2 1@3; Total Hits: 11@2: (3)1@3: (1)

[cyan]

then you would contuine untill you retreaed or won… the defender may have to post an OOL before hand. but here is a basic turn should look like. i copied this so the results arn’t highlighted.

R3:
purachase 2 art and 8inf for 32 ipcs.

Combat moves:

W. Russia: 3  inf vs 1 inf
3 inf moscow

E. europe: 2 inf, 2  fig vs 1 inf, 1art
2 inf ukraine
2 fig caucus

Balkans: 1inf, 1art vs. 1inf
1inf, 1 art ukraine

dice……

W. Russia: 3  inf vs 1 inf
DiceRolling 3d6:
(2, 2, 4)

vs.
DiceRolling 1d6:
(1)

E. europe: 2 inf, 2  fig vs 1 inf, 1art
DiceRolling 2d6 2d6:
(5, 6)  (3, 4)

vs.
DiceRolling 2d6:
(2, 3)

Balkans: 1inf, 1art vs. 1inf
DiceRolling 2d6:
(1, 4)

vs.
DiceRolling 1d6:
(2)

[Admiral_Thrawn]

Rolls: 3@2 1@3; Total Hits: 23@2: (4, 1, 6)1@3: (2)

[Admiral_Thrawn]

just practicing :-)

[cyan]

skiped a few rounds of combat. also a full unit(everyone) report should be placed a tleast at the end of us turn.

Results:
W. russia taken with 1 inf. ( 10 rounds of combat.  :-o )
E. europe: cleared with 2 figs.  angry  angry 2.3% of that hapenning. ( most people run frodd before the battle i do it after.  rolleyes)
Balkans:  taken wiht 1 art  undecided

Noncombat:
2 fig ee 4 arm cauc> ukr
1 arm cauc > belo
1 arm cauc > Krelia
2 inf sink,  5 inf Yakut > novosibrisk
1 inf yakut  > soveit far east

place units: 2art, 2inf > cauc, 8 inf > moscow

collects income  31 ipcs + 0 saved = 31 ipc

Summarry:
Blalkans: 1art
Kareila: 1 tanks + 1 uk art
Belo: 1 russian + 1 uk tank( 2 tanks)
UKraine: 1 AA, 2 Inf, 2 Art, 5 Arm 2 fig
w. russia: 1 inf
cauc 2inf 2 art + 1 uk aa
moscow: 8 inf, 1 aa
novosibrisk: 7 inf
yakut 1 inf
soviet far east: 1 inf

[Admiral_Thrawn]

I think I understand. Not too difficult. :wink:

[Admiral_Thrawn]

That dice rolling is really neat. I like it. Play by forum a lot?

[cyan]

@Admiral_Thrawn:

That dice rolling is really neat. I like it. Play by forum a lot?

not really March was my last game. finish it in may. it was really long because 5 people and different time zones. damn Australians.  :wink:  :lol:

[Admiral_Thrawn]

Well at least you get to talk and play with some interesting people. Luckley I get to play some form of A&A 3 or 4 times month with a couple buddies. I haven’t been able to play for awhile. Withdrawls… :cry:

[Admiral_Thrawn]

Well, when one day Gewehr returns you can show him how to play by email and we can play.

[cyan]

@cyan:

i think finland should be consiidered a light pink terrotry. it has to be attacked to be under soveit control. finland went to war with both countries.  and wasn’t allied in 1939.
edit: consider vybrog finnish. that way they can produce an infantry per turn in finland. germany contols finland and vybrog.(handles their incomes separate and stuff) could produce 8 ipcs if very lucky.

this idea admiral, but too lazy to quote myself. hope cyan doesn’t sue me for copyright protection.  :lol: :lol:

everything you need Gewhr is on this page to learn the rules of by forum. also read my quote and know your own bloody rules on page one. when you okay, i’ll start a thread and you can post. if some one want to help the admiral they better say so before Gewhr comes back. and i’m trying to keep this page the top page.

[Admiral_Thrawn]

Sounds good to me.

[Gewehr]

Well, could we play  the “normaol”/“original” rules.
That way theres no confusion.  :-)

the only thing I would like to add, is that the only country that can attake the pink terirories is the SU (Hitler-Stalin Nonagression Act) Even if Hitler did blitz his way into east poland, he would have had to back out due to the act.

He, hey Thrawn, that means that if you play as all the allies then you’ll technically have to invade your own terirori.  :lol:

[cyan]

that not a very normal way to spell that word.  :wink: okay you can stay with you rules. i thought it was simple just let finland have the abilty to fight the ussr like it did. it would slow down a massive militry build up in moscow.

[cyan]

here is the link http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=10042.msg216585#new

[Admiral_Thrawn]

Here are some of my suggestions at changing the setup when someone plays this scenerio next time.
1. Italy should have battleship no subs-There biggest contribution was there navy
2. Netherlands Belgium should have 2 Inf.-They had armies too
3. Maybe cut back Yougoslavia to 3 or 2inf. Germans had no problem occupying the country
4. Give the UK another destroyer or 2-Seems extremely weak. Maybe One off of Canada
5. Give US the start off like from the chart in AAE
6. Delayed entranced of Italy,Bulgaria,Rumania,Hungary,Finland-Italy should not join the axis until Poland,Netherlands-Belgium,And eastern France are conquered. The rest joins with free armies after Denmark,Yougoslavia, Greece, Crete, France, and Norway are conquered.
7.Surprise Attack For Axis attacks SU. All units defend on a 1 for the first combat move against them.
like Pacific first move

[cyan]

News report. - mid to late april 1940.
Germany and Italy are at war with the queendom and the republic of france. On the western front the magiot line as been pulled back just east of Paris. trenchs have been dug at a last defence line aroung the Sine river and its tributaries. ot resembles  the great war with massive german and french armies starring at each other, each too afraid to make a move. the italians control the port cities of Marseille and tolun with much of the southern sectors.  the french airforce has been recently reduced to oblivion when after being postiton in algerra try to liberate the mederterrian from italian hands. Canada the the UK are slowly build up but lack naval domonice. If Paris fall will britian be able to liberate them. the Britsh are all ready digging in with a large force in egypt.( don’t they know trenchs don’t really work in the sand guess italy will have to give them an a** whopping)  with out this vital oil transporation will be greatly reduced wit the italians staring greedily at them from libya.

in thw east front everything is quiet and a slow build up is occuring but WHERE is america?

[cyan]

News Report june 1940(ed 2)-  Italy has called off the bombing of Paris to wipe out all defenders in Egypt. looks like the Churchill tanks will be tugged by horses into battle.  italy is reigning supreme in the Medeterrian while Britain is slowly building they’re navy back up in the frigid ice caps but is still too weak to defeat Germany.  no change in the western front except the German army is growing massively compared to the French snail.  The Luffawatte bombers have mistaken Scottish sheep farms for London cities but both the RAF and the French air force have been lost due to  failed counterattacks against the elite axis navies. all is quiet on the eastern front except there as been MIG-15’s spotted in the Zagaros Mountains.  while they be trying to tear down Italian tank columns if advanced upon or are they a political message to say Stalin is preparing for war? either way Mussonlni who has remanimed himself Emperor Septembus( to symbolize the succeeding roman Empire) has threaten Stalin saying if they don’t back down italy won’t stop untill they reach moscow. Battleplans for a  Massive pincer blitz from Germany and Italy are being Formed to bring Moscow under siege by EARLY fall.  THIS IS THE FATE OF STALIN’s INFERIOR NATION IF HE Does NOT BACK OFF NOW!.  It looks bleak for France and the UK. they need american aid now and quickly. will Rrussia remain neutral with rising tensions between the emperor-fuhor alliance and the premir? can they repulse any attack? all this told on the next edition of the world news.

[Eschaton]

@ Admiral Thrawn: Those are some good ideas, but most of them won’t work for various reasons.

#1 - this seems good until you realize that the BB, with its powerful bombard, would make Italian invasions along the N African coast too easy. Moreover, Italian mini subs (and other Axis submersible weapons) were responsible for a great deal of damage to Allied shipping and even managed to cripple portions of the British fleet during the early parts of the war. Therefore subs it is.

#2 - Netherlands-Belgium used to have Armies in previous versions but aside from the fact that historically they were small potatoes and did almost nothing to halt the Axis steamroller during playtesting it was decided that any Allied presence in the Netherlands-Belgium would ahistorically halt the German advance into Western Europe, forcing the Axis to wait a turn longer for the fall of France than they could really afford to.

#3 - Although the Germans may not have had much difficulty occupying Yugoslavia, the Italians did. Moreover, Yugoslavia was a hotbed of Communist resistance during the war, and so the strong Allied presence in this territory is meant to reflect all that.

#4 - The British are quite strong in this game and need no such help.

#5 - What, really, is wrong with having the USA start off when France falls? For all we know, had Hitler not actually controlled most of continental Europe when the Japanese attacked, the USA might have concentrated first on the PTO instead of the ETO, as the ETO wouldn’t have looked all that grim.

#6 - This is an uneccesary rule and does not reflect the early actions of Italy in the war.

#7 - This rule may yet be implemented if the USSR proves to be too powerful yet. Otherwise it would be best to avoid using this rule in order to keep the rules simple and prevent an ahistorical single infantry meatshield across the entire Soviet border. Granted this can still happen without the rule, but this rule would only aggravate the situation.

@Gewehr: Although it is true that it is ahistorical to allow Axis to occupy pink territories, it is allowed in this game in order to both simplify the rules and provide for yet another potential historical deviation - what if Hitler’s armies, more confident of their blitzkrieg tactics, rolled all the way to the Soviet border, not allowing Stalin to make good on his side of the treaty? Certainly it is possible that Stalin, both amazed at the ability of the Nazi war machine and anxious to avoid war before his own military was properly mobilized, might have backed down and allowed Hitler to take all that he had conquered? After all, this was the precedent set by other national leaders - to back down and hope that this was the last demand of Hitler.