Are you playing with a bid or not? Which ruleset?

Having said that…the Pacific is irrelevant to the US. Everything goes through the Atlantic to Finland to Karelia and onward.

India and Australia are irrelevant to the UK. Her priority is naval rebuilding, and taking back Africa, while ensuring Karelia does not fall.

Russia’s early focus is on containment of Germany. The first 2 turns should be all in Karelia. The Russkies Eastern forces should orderly withdraw to Novosibirsk. If alive, the US forces in Sinkiang should also withdraw. If the India forces are not required to take back Africa, then they should go through Sinkiang to Novo as well. Starting on Russia 3, you now need to consider if you need to build a few more guys for the Asia front. The combined objective of the Allies is…initial containment of Germany at the EE/Kar line. Orderly withdrawl and salvage of troops in Asia. Creation of the Novo defensive line. You will want to ensure that you have modest but sufficient Russian resources to keep the Japs at bay in turns 3-6. Holding Novo as long as you can is critical. By that time, the pipeline through Finland should be well established and you will be funnelling excess troops from the UK and/or US through Karelia to help fight off the Japanese. UK fighter in Karelia can serve double purpose…they deter the German attack…and then can be moved to Novo on the UK turn to deter the Jap attack. The reverse for Russian fighters. Learn how to use the UK airforce to your best advantage. Get the US bomber to Russia immediately. You will likely get 2 attacks with 1 Inf & 1 Bomber against a lone Jap in Yakut for instance, provided you retreat the Sinkiang guys on US 1. This is an effective way to get back a few points for the Russkies without exposing Russian troops. Similarly, the two UK India guys combined with 3 Ftrs and a Bomber is a nice one time smack on 4-5 Jap infantry that advance to Yakut or Sinkiang, again provided the India guys go Sinkiang on UK1 and Novo on UK2.

SUD

Heres my ruleset. I find these to be my personal favorite.

Add to Britain - 1 IC in place of Britain’s Choosing

1 Bb off Britain
1 Transport 1 sub off Australia
2 Infantry to Egypt
2 infantry to Persia
5 Infantry 1 Fighter wherever Britain wants to put it.

Add 3 Infantry to Karelia
Add 3 Infantry to Yakut

Take away 1 Transport (Phil) from Japan
Take away 1 Transport (Atlantic) From US

Complete FFA, last one alive wins. No special rules. It gets pretty nasty. I remember, in the space of 3 turns, I once backstabbed both Japan and Russia, my allies, Allied with Germany, Attacked America (and won) and did an Amphid assault on Germany itself.

Needless to say, I won that game :smile:

I respect any player who can write in depth essays like that that cover both the Axis and Allie Campaigns. Even though it allows for little flexibility (keyword: lots of infantry), it’s a surefire tactic for beginners and experts alike.

yeah i try not to concentrate on russia to much, becuase it dont really matter if russia falls if uk and usa are powerfull enuogh then you cant do much anyway when i take russia i got to much to defend, about that time he has about 30 men both america and uk and about 20 tanks with UK and USA and he also has a big fleet enuogh to wipe japan out instantly but he dont really see them as a fret and he will try alot of tactics am in kerilia after defeating russia , i cant really move from there or he will drop forces on norway and procede to go to russia and take the money from it,if that dont work then he will normally go round to japans water and drop all his men on the other side of the board cant remember the country i dont have the game my uncle does and he attacks japan fleet and takes japan,or sometimes he will come to africa and move up from there or he will come down to southern europe wiith english trnasporters and english fleet and men and drop them there in southern europe but if i split my forces from western europe (france) then he will land there i have to quickly move my forces down there to try and stop him then he drops the americans on kerilia and go’s to russia and moves the rest of the russians that are in asia what are killing japanese men that drop over. he also…… most of the time manages to get a factory with the uk in indua and fly all his planes there to defend it so then i have the ,americas taking russia joining up with the english build up in asia aswell with the remaining russians and then english fleet atackking my men on gibralter and landing and attacking soutern europe only if i havent got my men there in time if i only have tanks defending it he attacks, but he then changes and then drops men on syria iraq and joins the english with the americans and the russia remainders so then he has russia defending moscow with americcans english he is getting alot of money pumping more men out reading 4 the next landing and am still badly damaged with germany to really attack him, or sometimes he just lingers around german waters and waits 4 me to open up then lands in sothern or attacks it, its really hard playing with him, he originally found the game in america some military people was playing the game apparently,said there commander made them play it makes then strategic thinking a guess?

That, and if you have to troops and the transports, why not just take out Great Britian before the allies destroy your navy.

I did once and highly regretted it. Japan had attacked India, taken it, lost it taken it back…etc. They called on Germany (I, conqueror of Africa) to help and I took it myself w/ 2 ARM. Unfortunately, Japan chose not to reinforce me and the USSR took India back. Japan took India AGAIN and begged me to land a FTR for defense and I did. They promptly moved OUT and left my precious FTR to die alone. Needless to say I never played alongside this guy again–at least while he was Japan.

Ozone27

If you are talking about A & A classic, standard rules, then BB’s are normal and require only a single hit to sink them, just like other pieces. However “2-hit BB’s” is a common house rule in classic A & A and many players enjoy it.

Ozone27

I think that if Germany falls, Japan still has a shot at winning. In one game I played, Japan had already taken Russia and was pushing into Ukraine and Kerelia. However, Germany surrendered to the Allies on the very next turn so it was USA/UK vs. Japan. If I remember the calculations correctly Japan was making around 69 IPCs a turn with UK and USA at 77. For about 50+ turns, trench warefare waged across Finland, Eastern Europe, and East Africa with Naval and Aerial battles raging across the English Channel. My God it was great!

LoL

Like japan against russia in normal A&A.
Or Germany against anyone but russia.
:smile:

Japan can’t go tit for tat against America or they let America outspend them. In the first turn the nearby british navy must be destroyed, or at least pocket your naval forces in large numbers. Take India with nearby aircraft you can muster. Playing with the houserule that russia can’t attack on first turn, mass troop south of russian border and prepare for assault by next term. Within one to three turns Japan can have complete superiority over Asia depending on what Russia does in the east and what America does in the Pacific. IT takes america at least two turns to attack Japan itself, or they can invest themselves fully against germany or with an island hopping campaign.

If america tries ot out build your navy, simply buy planes and subs, America can;t go tit for tat, and if they didn’t move fast against Germany, then they wasted their time.

An island hopping campaign hurts america’s ability to replenish their fleet, thus you can out number and destroy it.

It all does with execution of your plan. Take Asia, and Japan will have more bread than a prison meatloaf. By then if you are playing world domination, it is probably in Japan’s best interest to elminate continental powers first russia, then germany.

I’m getting ahead of my self.

Tell me if i’m wrong, but Japan’s road to victory is domination in Asia, not destroying any American fleet. By the the time America can attack Japan, Japan can buy last minute forces to outdo an American invasion force. IT seems America must totally focus on taking Germany out and Africa, while staying with Alliance with Russia and the UK.

Japan must be a continental power or they fail.

how does egypt influence on the india factory.

For England the point is not about giving up a territory worth 3 IPC (india) in the sake of one worth 2 (egypt). At stake is how long the germans are going to have Africa (worth 10 ipc´s.)up against how fast the japanese is rolling over asia. And in the early game its England job to decide it.

Now the german gambit in egypt should be counter attacked with troops from India.
as stated earlyer
But then what ?

if this is the use of the last english troops in the area the ipc argument about prefering india against egypt could be considered. But its not.

This is the rare case where african factorys are appropiate . The english is building a factory in south africa, and if the course of the game allows it later, another one in egypt.

with this gambit , The german take over of africa is proberly delayed (the sub could have taken the transport- germany might not have bought an transport- there might be in turn 2 a transport as a valid target , and he could have lost troops in egybt ) all over weaknesses there means that its limited how fast troops is sailing into africa.

the german then have some though considerations.
the german mediterainan fleet might be sunken early in the game if the english can land there planes in africa, ending the african adventure. And as usual every troop commited to Africa is missing against russia.

if he goes all out after africa. He still needs a troop build up. And no matter what the english would have a very active role in the game, draving away troops from the east.(and this would give russia troops free ).

And if he loose or just give up africa
to england. The English can then stop the troop buid up there and focus elsewhere. Or gather trops in persia/ syria to make presure in asia (or on the east front.)

now the german attack on egypt is a gambit, because the counter attack puts england in a more active posistion and shortend the german hold over africa. but without a south african and/or egyptian factory its not that much of a gambit.

summary: The germans should not do the egypt attack, but build up in libia.
And therefore the english can get troops to reinforce India. (Also a rusian fighter might land there and still participate in attack on cacasus or ukraine in round 2- but then if germans do egypt, russia will loose a fighter to japan if the english counter attack egypt is this worth it ?). and this means that a first round attack on india from Japan is very unlikely (and unvise).

with regards
Jondifool

You should without a doubt do something like that Mr.Admin.

This site already has a nice community, and with some help from hasbro and you should be able to have a game set on this site in no time.

Keep us updated!!!

I play restricted, so all i do is move my naval units to england. As much as possible inf to karelia, one fighter to india. Three tanks into russia. 6 men into yakut, and leave one standing to the right of Yakut(cant remember what the land is called).

This has worked fine for me over the years.

i wanted to share a playtest on a new panama canal strategy. with the axis, our first turn purchase for germany was an ac for southern eur (a radical departure from our group’s normally infantry-intensive games). japan took the canal on turn two, and it was promptly taken back by the u.s., of course. on germany’s third turn, it was able to sail a bship, ac w/2 f, and a tr w/2 inf into panama and free it for japan’s move. as good as it felt to get the japs over there, however, the game was effectively over by mid-turn three. japan was slowed from taking much asian land – because of needing a fighter and transport with the fleet, not to mention that the u.s. bship was free to roam the pacific and sink other japanese transports – and germany was crippled from attacks by u.k and russia – because of purchasing the carrier and missing out on heavy first round infantry. thank you for your suggestions on alternative moves for the fleet. i’m now prepared to admit that japanese simply can’t get to the atlantic early in the game without too much sacrifice…

This is true. To get down to the nitty-gritty: as Germany you start the game making 32 IPCs a turn, right? So if it was just you and USSR in a straight fight, you’d waste them in a few turns, right? Problem is you’ve gotta deal with the threat from the Western Allies at the same time–and still have enough money to grind down Russia. That is the tough part. The trick is holding off the Western Allies from invading Europe WITH THE LEAST POSSIBLE IPC INVESTMENT, so the vast majority of your IPCs can be spent against USSR. You MUST increase your economy in order to have enough $$$ do do this. The more you can weaken USSR’s buying power, the better–try strategic bombing Karelia and hope you get lucky. Get your ally (Japan) to help by bombing USSR as well. The Allies will gang up on you–gang up on them whenever you can! Watch what USSR buys carefully–it will clue you in to what you need to buy to counter it. Remember as attacker you have the option to retreat–against USSR, at least, any battle where you score more hits against them than they against you can be a victory: the war against USSR is an economic war, and whoever can best manage their resources correctly will get stronger and stronger, while the enemy gets weaker and weaker. And the best advice is to play a few games as the Allies: once you get a feel for their tactics and strategic needs, you will be able to anticipate some of their moves and take measures to counter them.

Ozone27

I AM NOT SAYING ROLL ALL DICE FIRST TURN.
I am just saying that even though there is a risk in buying tech, don’t ignore it!
I usually roll tech when I don’t need an extra tank or inf next turn as Japan, US, or UK. Not all turns, not everything on one turn; one or two dice here and there throught out the course of the game.

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I think that it would be a good idea for anyone who

wants to post something to do it with a name behind it.

(Putting it in a nice way)

Ahhhhh….
Thanx