Subs in battle

I mainly made these because I need  larger things to see and especially reminders what the national bonuses are for objectives. We always have a new player joining and he does not quite remember what is required to get the bonus.

On the battle board I added information about surprise attacks and anti aircraft as people forget to roll these first, Kamikaze information, and how to do strategic bombing runs.

That’s correct.

@calvinhobbesliker:

Does anyone know of a battle calculator that takes the rules of P40 into account?(carriers attacking at 0 and taking 2 hits, possibility for BB’s and CV’s to be damaged before battle, Mech inf, tactical bmrs.)

Triplea is an amazing free program that allows you to play axis and allies realtime against players all over the world, play by email, play by yourself, or play against the weak computer ai.

triplea has classic(World War II Classic), revised (World War II Revised), anniversary(World War II V3), and aa42(World War II V4). the names in brackets are the names triplea uses for legal reasons.

pac40 (World War II Pacific, note Pacific Alpha is the original pacific game released in 2001) map and units are completed but the game is not finished yet as the naval and air bases do not work. because the bases do not effect the units the battle calculator works perfectly.

to use the battle calc
download triplea
download pac40 map
open a game of pac40
click on game tab at top of triplea tool bar
scroll down to battle calculator
enter your attacking and defending units

you can download it here http://triplea.sourceforge.net/mywiki/TripleA

@calvinhobbesliker:

Yes

though technically I believe a submarine can only be “submerged” during the combat phase and after the combat phase ends it is no longer considered “submerged”. So during any collect income phase, submarines cannot be submerged for any reason regardless at that point in a turn.

I believe Kreig has previously expressed the problems with the rule as submarines are often “submerged” regardless and it’s a misnomer.

Commando Brado, wow this was a bad predicament to be in. I’m assuming that Japan was in allied hands and this was a last ditch effort to get it back (it gets one turn to do so). Boy did you get screwed by not having any ships that could take out those US subs, or force them to submerge. I didn’t think much of the a/c not having an attack value any more til now.

Edit: The only other scenario I could see where you would want to bring Jap transports into sz 6 combat is you still have Japan, and are trying to liberate Korea.

@calvinhobbesliker:

If you move a sub into a SZ with 2 transports, are you allowed to just kill 1 and retreat the sub?

No.  They are both automatically destroyed.

@Hellmet:

Thanks all for the quick answers!!  Just a point of clarity, I assume that the sub must fight or flee on HIS (the US) combat turn and NOT Japan’s.

Of course.

@Omega:

and Anzac has some fighters right? If so, you will need fighters to defend the bomber

yah, and it would be easy enough to bring in some infantry and perhaps an AA gun as well.

That’s workable. Anything would be better then 1 DD see’s everything right out of the box. You could even house rule something like that into AA50, just make it part of the radar tech. 1 for 1 until you get advanced radar(tech) then 1 DD see’s all subs. Its even kinda how the radar tech works. You fire AA guns @ 1 until you develop radar giving your AA guns a kill @ 2. Early in the game subs could easily out number DD’s, but you would still get limited detection. I might have to try this next game.

This would also work when air units & DD attack subs. Matched up 1 for 1. Excess subs would be allowed to submerge, unless the power w/DD & air units also has radar. At that point subs could not submerge til the DD is destroyed, just how it is now

Come on give subs more bite! :evil: