What if I dont want to do it larrys way?

Thank you for the information.  Six turns…  The map must be huge!

@WILD:

@maverick_76:

If you think of it this way, Germany took territory that basically was double the size of Germany. And they were still about 100 Km from Moscow when the winter hit. Depending on how many territories Larry wants to put in between, I would say 3-6 territories in a straight shot from Berlin to Moscow. The distance is about 900 miles, so 3-6 seems like a good number, and allows Germany to be at Russia’s capital within 2 to 3 turns.

quote from Larry:
Aaah…ok Emperor_Taiki… there are 6 territories between Berlin and Stalingrad. Could not help myself… I just had to tell you.
I would think it would also be 6 tt between Berlin and Moscow. So it could take up to 6 rounds to get there. Germany will most likely start with some forces already in between however (Poland etc). Italy should also be able to can opener a few countries allowing Germany to blitz with its tanks/mech inf. So it could be like the 4th round or so for a full assault on Moscow.

@idk_iam_swiss:

Italy really depends on north africa. There cant be to many forces there right? there never are in my other games.

If the French become Allied like Larry says instead of Vichy you may end up with enemies that did not exist in WWII.

The French were in Morocco and Algeria and when they became Vichy they fought on the side of the Axis. If according to what I am hearing they become Allied instead, then Italy is going to have a tougher fight in North Africa.

I wonder if that will be an alternate rule that we can choose to employ? That would be kinda cool to see how the two setups would work out.

French territory in North Africa must become Axis controlled after the inevitable fall of France to keep a balance in North Africa.

quote from Larry
Hey Emperor_Taiki, East Africa – how will this be represented in AAE40?
Well I think so. I mean the French, the Italians and the British are all represented down there. I mean there’s Kenya, Tanganyika Territory, Rhodesia, Union of South Africa, South West Africa, British Somaliland, Anglo-Egyptian Sudan and an administered from London - Belgian Congo, and that’s just the British stuff… Hope this answers your question.

Sounds like Africa will be a cesspool, with a lot of fighting.

Well then as the topic states you don’t have to do it Larry’s way

@WILD:

quote from Larry
Hey Emperor_Taiki, East Africa – how will this be represented in AAE40?
Well I think so. I mean the French, the Italians and the British are all represented down there. I mean there’s Kenya, Tanganyika Territory, Rhodesia, Union of South Africa, South West Africa, British Somaliland, Anglo-Egyptian Sudan and an administered from London - Belgian Congo, and that’s just the British stuff… Hope this answers your question.

Sounds like Africa will be a cesspool, with a lot of fighting.

If they place units there.  Just because a power controls territories in Africa doesn’t mean that the setup will give them any units…  and let’s hope we don’t just end up with a bunch of opposing infantry all over the continent… yesh…

@idk_iam_swiss:

Italy really depends on north africa. There cant be to many forces there right? there never are in my other games.

in previous incarations, the Italians were represented by German units, so most of the stuff in Italy, Balkans, NAfrica & the Med would be Italian.  Even in the old AAE, if you change that stuff to Italian, you end up with a decent force.  maybe better than AA50…  :roll:

a simple role for each ‘french vichy’ territory to go axis or allied would be easy enough to house rule, could be helpful.

Yeah but we shouldn’t have to go house rules.

@WILD:

Like I said its going to take like 5 rounds or more to get to Moscow. By then the French & English will be power houses on your back door. They will also be able to kick the Italians out of Africa by then. The only problem the allies will have is should I take Rome 1st or Berlin.

I agree 100%

I do like the Idea of politics between the powers becoming an option now. THe EurAsian Tripact sounds like a possible reality now.  Maybe I will rename Washington New Berlin. :evil:

@WILD:

I would think it would also be 6 tt between Berlin and Moscow. So it could take up to 6 rounds to get there. Germany will most likely start with some forces already in between however (Poland etc). Italy should also be able to can opener a few countries allowing Germany to blitz with its tanks/mech inf. So it could be like the 4th round or so for a full assault on Moscow.

Hopefully the distance between between Berlin and Moscow will only be 4 tt. Stalingrad was much further away than Moscow and the game should refleect that. The germans got to Moscow in just a few months, they where not near the volga until mid 1942.

I also like this idea of additonal diplomatic and politcal options. It wasnt clear until Italy invaded France(June 20) that Italy would be on the same side as Germany and Germany and the Soveits had signed a a decaded long truce. Although many thought France and England would be allies, France surrendered and practicaly switched sides, while it was quite possible England too would have made a truce with Germany. Of course thats not going to be what happens in this addition since it will be a straight up fight between Axis&Allies, but their will be some politcal rules like their are in AAP40.

As an allied player, Italy is a scary thought.

I’m sure they will start off with a naval advantage in the Med. The will surly focus on attacking Aferica, because they will probley have 1 NO for domation of the Med (owning all the islands, Giburtla, and no allied surface ships), and 1 for the Suez or Cairo. Possible 10+the territory of northen aferica (5?) and then they will open up the Middle East Oil Fields (12!!) which will be undefended after the fall of aferica. Already up to over 25IPCs + mabey 10 for NOs.

Then they can do 1 of 2 things. Go for the windfall of IPCs in Southen Aferica (some restanace from SA intslef) or attack the underbelly of Russia (and another oil field, the Cacacus-6 IPCs).

Unless their is a big Brittish effort to stop, Italy will take down the allies.

I wonder if their will be a minor IC in Cairo (probley), and mabey even Tripoli, and defintally one in SA.

Beware of the Italian monster.

And about the thread topic, I don’t see what harm it could do Germany to capture Paris (its worth 4 IPCs, I think). Though I think I will be leaving Italy to Vichy. Normandy we can decide on the day.

And if Germnay go stright out for an attack on Russia, Russia should fall back and protect important things (NOs, ICs, and high income territories) and just buy infantry for about 3 rounds and hold Germany out, because if Germany does not have a quick win, England and France along with US planes will be right on their doorsteps. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

RACE, this will be the biggest race in the history of the world.

If Germnay leaves France, they HAVE to get to and capture Moscow in 3 turns. They will need to go for TOTAL warfare. Everything into Russia. SBRing them to nothing, and using all of you aircarft to rapid blitz across Russia, with Italy helping in the south with their navy.

Once the capture Moscow, they pump units out of Germany to kick the UK out of Franance, while cpaturing the high income Cacauus oil fields, then the middle east, and kick the UK out of Aferica from behind them.

IF GERMANY LEAVES FRANCE, GET READY OF THE BIGGEST ******* RACE IN AXIS AND ALLIES HISTORY. 3 Turns and Russia MUST FALL.

This is SOOO EPIC

I think, now on second thoughs, a cupple of things.

A-Berlin will be in Eastern Germany (an extra territory for the UK to capture).
B-France is its own power, so Engalnd cannot produce from it (everythings will have to come from transports, execpt about 10 french IPCs)
C-Larry said something about their only been a cupple of infantry on the Russian frount. (Mabey G1 attack not possible).
D-We will not have to worry about the USA. Japan will do a J3 attack, meaning the USA carnt land in France by until US 4, and by then it is too late.

So our MOST EPIC RUSSIAN FROUNT has got about 2 turns less epic. :cry: :cry: :cry:

i think that if germany attack russia, the russian IPC goes from small token (let’s say 10 IPC) to double of germany, so you need to prepare and have allot of money (france, and possible UK) to invade USSR. with invasion of USSR US will probably jump in too