Submerge or retreat. which first?

It doesn’t matter if the land unit survives to retreat or not.  Just its having moved into the territory establishes the retreat path.

@Pherman1215:

There are no early victories in A&A revised.  Plan on winning the long game.  Buy lots of infantry and find a way to equalize the IPC production.  The best way to do this is take Africa, but Northern Russia and Caucasus are another way to do this.

I do disagree.

Rare it may be, but there’s at least one way for Germany to try to finish Russia as quickly as possible on Revised - with a 8/9 bid place 1 inf/art on Belorussia and 1 armor in E. Europe and pray that the Russians have at least average losses while attacking West Russia and any other territories. On G1 buy 8 armor and hit the Russian stack on West Russia with everything that can hit it and send everything towards Russia (including the inf and armor on Libya to Ukraine). Afterwards pray for decent dice and that the UK/US doesn’t land too soon in Europe.

Yes it is.  However, I think you missed one as well.  You may use a retreat to get units through enemy lines and consolidate your forces.

For instance, if Russia has 8 Infantry, 3 Tanks in Persia and 24 Infantry, 9 Tanks and 2 Fighters in Russia, you can attack the Germans in Caucasus with everything and retreat everything to Russia where you can be a pain in Germany’s side.

Does not always come in handy, but there are times it is useful.  Namely in the above situation, but also when you put a Submarine in SZ 2 and your British fleet in SZ 4 then attack the German fleet in SZ 3 and retreat your entire navy to SZ 2.

@rjclayton:

As always, it depends what the board looks like after Moscow falls.  Typical board would probably have Japan holding all of UK’s territories except Canada and Great Britain.  With an income that low how long could UK really hope to last against a combined GER/JAP with income over 100 IPC?

It depends on how persuasive British ladies are.

Rawr.

Anyways - I already posted regarding what I think Axis should do after Russia falls.

I’m in this game agasinst this guy.

I’m allies hes axis. Germany was holdin out against Sovs and U.K. America and Japan stalemate.
He builds a v. gd fleet in Japan-transporters x 4 Battleships x 2 Destoyer x 3 Aicraft Carrier x 1.
america have gd fleet 1 Transporter, 3 Destoyers, 2 Sumbarines.
Japan attack and destroy all american ships with ease and dump cargo. after a few battles involving around 5-10 tanks and fighters-each, Japan break in and slowly take over all American mainland.
Meanwhile, Germany have been forced out of Europe and after earlier invading Africa it is now being taken over so what is left of Germany has been forced onto boats in a fleet of 5 ships. russia doing all work. Japan onlky has their bits left apart from small islands near Australia.
At the point of the game Japan have put to much energy in attacking US. They are being pushed back into Japan but are raking in money from rewards so hard to stop. Could probably raid the capital of America but 6 tanks are waiting in Central America.
In conclusion, it is indeed rare to get into America as the guy i am playing is a veteran and has never seen it done. If you do, expect awards, but you will be unstable from then on. :|

G1 Sea Lion is one of the major reasons why Larry Harris Tournament Rules are used rather than the box rules.

Maybe you could make a thread about your strategy.  Unless your waiting to unleash it against one of the people here?

Damn, we can;t even agree on the rules here…