Tanks on transports

The rules as you state them are correct.  The only way you wouldn’t be able to load and then unload a transport on the same turn is when you load your units on to one of your allies transports then you must wait until the next turn to unload them.  I think if transports worked the way you wanted them to industrial complexes would become very popular in this game.

Thanks for all your imput guys…  totally makes sense.

Yox

@Imperious:

That was busted on BGG along time ago. In fact i was the guy whom it was first tried against and failed twice, with the guy latter claiming he had an “unstoppable axis move for Germany” and "comments like “didn’t they even playtest this”

Needless to say i put him in his place, but i have no idea why he still clings to that idea. I posted strategy maps on this but admit it’s just one way to do it, but not the best. I favor a more balanced strategy because it is easily countered.

While a blitz shouldn’t usually work when everyone has plaed the game a few times, I think the concept is useful.  Example:  If you think G1 can get by building all tanks, the Allies have to keep an Axis blitz option on the table and prepare for it, or they are toast.  It is useful to show it can be done (with no real expectations of doing it) if the allies ignore it/ get awful dice, in order to limit ally play options.

@cocotheflyingnut:

#1: Can Russia produce out of Germany? Or because their capital is gone, they no longer can produce anywhere?

You can’t purchase units if you don’t hold your capital.

@cocotheflyingnut:

#2:If Russia is taken over first, and then Russia takes out Germany, what happens to the money Russia would take from Germany? Does it go to the bank?

The USSR still gets the IPCs, but it can’t spend them until its capital is liberated.

@cocotheflyingnut:

#3: Does Caucasus become Japans? Does Japan have to put units in Caucasus for it to become theirs, or will it always be Germany’s unless Russia takes it back, and Japan takes it from them?

It will remain under German control until captured by an Allied power.  Japan can’t take it from Germany.

@cocotheflyingnut:

#4: If Russia was taken over from Germany, but Russia takes Germany, and you have Japanese units also in Russia, who has ownership of Russia, and who, if anyone, is allowed to produce there?

Germany controls Russia until it is liberated by an Allied power.  Germany can’t mobilize units there, since its capital is in enemy hands.  Japan can’t mobilize units there, since it doesn’t control the territory.  So, no one is allowed to use the IC until the situation changes (either Russia or Germany is liberated).

germany should only build all tanks first and 2nd round.J1 must send 2 fighters into the indian ocean at a cost to the china takeover,so the brits don’t reinforce egypt.russia must do nothing except defend against the tank blitz

Absolutely correct, Battlingmaxo.  This concept is illustrated by the transport combat example in the FAQ.

@mojo:

thanks buddy i like it, i’ve been trying to build navy for germany for years.  once in classic i bid 18 bought a AC and put it in the med.  built my fleet up and owned the atlantic.  no units shipped from USA or UK.  it was awesome,  but my buddy built USA in the pacific, russia owned asia,  and  he took japan, so i still lost,  but what a freaking game that was.  i’ll look ya up for a game.

Not a problem, unless you’re flying to Hawaii!  We’re getting a game of Revised & Classic on 05/30/09!

As for the modified sub rules for revised, this is what we used.

Air can only interact with subs when destroyer is present (can be
friendly destroyer if defending, i.e. subs vs. DD, AC with Ftr).

SBR damage limited to value of the territory’s IPC value/turn

normal bid for axis

unit placement change 2 subs from SZ 5 to SZ 8 (this was to offset the fleet in SZ 5 from being destroyed in 1st round.

We played two games with this setup.

First with 6 bid for Axis (2 inf to Libya) Japan took USSR and Germany held.  These changes make it expensive for Allies to shuck shuck.  Germany purchases were 2 subs and all infantry for 3 rounds.

Second game was 12 bid for Axis (2 inf to Libya, 2 inf to Ukr), game could have gone both ways.

Let me know what you think about the modification.  Probably in the wrong forum for this but it’s a continuation of our discussion so I hope it’s ok.

Happy Memorial Day!

@U-505:

Second, the logical progression after attacking Phil is to go to Australia(J2) and then to India(J3) and then to Africa(J4). It’s hard for me to wrap my head around what happens if you don’t attack Phil on J1, but you still go for India and Phil on J2. Australia is still in UK hands at the end of J2 so in order to take it you’re either going backwards from India or if you push on to Africa from India then you’re looking at buying a lot more TP’s than just the 1 or 2 I usually buy with Japan because most of your initial TP’s will be too far away to come back and start landing units from Japan. And that seems costly considering you earned 7 IPC’s less than you would if you had taken Phil on J1.

If I don’t attack Philipines J1, I buy 2 tpts.  Those Tpts can take on Philipines J2, leaving all the other tpts freedom to do whatever they want.  By stationing in sz37, taking Burma, Japan will have 4 transports, loaded carrier, BB, CA in range of Australia J2 (Unless UK blocks).  Ground unit wise, at least 3 inf + whatever is left in Burma to australia J2.  The threat to hit India with the same units and 3 ftrs in FIC makes the UK units run for the hills, so you pretty much walk into India J2 AND take australia without being blocked from Australia by one silly UK DD (if you go to Philipines).

By being in SZ37, you threaten so many spots, the allies really can’t afford to try and hold anything very strongly and their best/safest course of action is to withdraw safely, most likely to persia.  Even there, JApan can hit with east indies and burma units + 2 ftrs or maybe another 2 ftrs if italy/germany take TRJ.

It’s not a pretty scenario for the allies.  Of course, the allies can get lucky and hurt Japan by doing well in Burma (3 inf, art vs UK inf), but the same can be said of the US inf hurting that same force J1.