at the start of the battle, the german OKH had two options. Both where considered. They had a very limited capacity to transport vital supplies to the front. They had enough to send the ammunition and fuel for a drive on Moscow without winter equipment. Or, they could send the winter equipment, fuel and ammunition that was needed for defensive operations. They chose to send ammunition and fuel, but no winter coats. This resulted in the disaster in front of Moscow, and the loss of a lot of the elite leadership of the german army. I believe the only reasonable choice would be to realize that the campaign could not be won in 41 and plan for a 42 campaign. Instead they decided to launch a battle with the potential to lose to war.
Favorite WWII Ship
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Did Germany actually have an Aircraft Carrier Design they planned on building?
Or is this just a pie in the sky pic from an artist’s concept?
I do not believe Germany ever had a chance to actually build an AC, that could have changed their odds, good thing for the Allies they never acted on it. :-)
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They built the carrier “Graf Zepplin” 70% finished.
The Allies were watching but new that it would not complete and did not waste the resources on it to destroy it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin
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@coachofmany:
They built the carrier “Graf Zepplin” 70% finished.
The Allies were watching but new that it would not complete and did not waste the resources on it to destroy it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin
Thanks coachofmany, you learn something new every day. Seems like they could have finished it but never did. Might have made a difference if it had been ready when lauched.
Cheers. :-)
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Britain would of sunk her as soon as she sailed.
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@coachofmany:
Britain would of sunk her as soon as she sailed.
Nothing was certain, Germany had some sucess slipping warships past the British.
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The Japanese superbattleship YAMATO…most powerful surface warship ever put to sea before the introduction of the Nimitz class aircraft carriers…
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I like the aircraft carrier because of its cargo.
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what, the ice cream
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The Japanese superbattleship YAMATO…most powerful surface warship ever put to sea before the introduction of the Nimitz class aircraft carriers…
Not a fan of the Yamoto personally as it was not the right weapon for that war. Japan would have been much better putting all those resources into a fleet carrier or two.
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Enterprise
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Arizona (first model I ever tried to build)Favorite fictional ship “The Sea Wolf” Operation Petticoat heh heh
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Favorite fictional ship “The Sea Wolf” Operation Petticoat heh heh
Operation Petticoat sub was called the Sea Tiger.
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My mistake. Thank you for correcting me. I haven’t seen the movie in years.
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I’m glad someone understands. Ships are just so awesome.
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@Captain:
The Japanese superbattleship YAMATO…most powerful surface warship ever put to sea before the introduction of the Nimitz class aircraft carriers…
Not a fan of the Yamoto personally as it was not the right weapon for that war. Japan would have been much better putting all those resources into a fleet carrier or two.
Very true Captain…but the Japanese really didnt know that yet when the war was just starting…but i do agree with that they could have built a two Shokaku class carriers for the price of one Yamato…but the Yamato was the most beautifull ship i have ever seen in ww2. A floating battlefortress…
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Total respect for the USS Arizona and it’s crew. Will never forget. USS NEW JERSEY My dad was on it in Vietnam.
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The iowa and its sister ship were the biggest bship of ww2 and in history but i love the enterprise though as well
Actually the Yamato and her sister ship the Mushashi were the biggest battleship of WWII weighing in at approx 71000 tons or more.
The Iowa class were big battleships but only came in at about 58000 tons, i bleieve they were the biggest US battleships to see operation however.
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I believe the Iowa class BB width was limited by the Panama Canal, you can see the difference on how narrow it is compared to the Yamato. The Montana class BB added a fourth turret but was equally as narrow, again to accomodate the canal. Even though the Yamato had a 18.1" dia. shell compared to the 16" of the Iowa class, the 16" shell had a farther range. I agree, the Yamato class BB was a pretty ship!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_class_battleship (Iowa class- 108ft beam)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_class_battleship (Montana - 121 ft beam)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_class_battleship (Yamato - 127 ft. beam)
I just read where the locks are only 110 ft wide, so the Montana class would not fit!
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@coachofmany:
I believe the Iowa class BB width was limited by the Panama Canal, you can see the difference on how narrow it is compared to the Yamato. The Montana class BB added a fourth turret but was equally as narrow, again to accomodate the canal. Even though the Yamato had a 18.1" dia. shell compared to the 16" of the Iowa class, the 16" shell had a farther range. I agree, the Yamato class BB was a pretty ship!
I just read where the locks are only 110 ft wide, so the Montana class would not fit!
One thing to note though is that the Montana was never built, planned but never actually built
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I believe the hull was actually started on the first two Montana clas BB’s.
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Got to vote for the USS ENTERPISE. No other ship comes close to accomplishing what the big E did and survived the war to boot.