Questions

@mateooo:

oh absolutely, but if you put that commander in a king tiger or a crocodile instead of a jeep, it becomes a completely different scenario. I just used the jeep as an example.

That would be unusual, because King Tigers and Crocodiles can’t transport…

you can make a logical arguement for all these to work in the real world, but it is a straight rule that ALL abilities work while transported, or NO abilities work while being transported? or are there exceptions?  All I see in the rules is that the initiative bonus does work while transported… or awaiting paradrop. I also see that units being transported can’t attack. But I see nothing about abilities.

The key here is you can’t directly atack a unit that is being transported.  You have to attack the vehicle the unit is in.  In most cases that’s easier than attacking the unit it’s self.

And the simple answer is yes, abilities work while being transported.

I’m trying to figure out if you are questioning how realistic the commander affect working while transported is, or if you are questioning if it is legal in the rules.

If it is the later, it is most definately legal.

First off, take the rules literally.  If it say “All adjacent friendly units get X bonus”, then they all adjacent units get X bonus.  Period, end of sentence.

Only if there is another rule that explicitly limts that first rule does it get negated.

If the rules (all rules, everywhere, for evey game) didn’t work this way then all rule books would be 1000 pages long trying to cover every possible permutation.  Rules should be taken as literally as possible.

Secondly, here’s the official answer to your question:

http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=8447

Mot

@mateooo:

how bout the other situations? do they work while transported?

In the absence of any explicit rule to the contrary (and I know of none and I’m pretty a-nal about these things), the answer to all is Yes.

@mateooo:

@dezrtfish:

@mateooo:

oh absolutely, but if you put that commander in a king tiger or a crocodile instead of a jeep, it becomes a completely different scenario. I just used the jeep as an example.

That would be unusual, because King Tigers and Crocodiles can’t transport…

oops, I meant like a KV 1 or Easy Eight

LOL what kind of crazy would put a Cossack Commander… ah… I mean a leader… in a KV1 :evil: :evil: :evil:

@mateooo:

and for the love of god, BARB WIRE! and other such traps.
I totally want to barbwire everything!

Yes, I think the obstacles would be a great addition.

@mateooo:

head shot???

I’ve done that ebfore…put a German Sniper in a half-track and you have a very mobile, very dangerous unit.  No hiding from him!

Of course, its also very fragile  :-(

Hordlings is arainged by “set”
Hold he cursor over the games pull down
Then the Axis and allies mini’s pull down
then the Sets pull down then you will see the different sets.

You need to know whitch set the unit you are looking for is in, the Wizards data base will tell you that.

Ranger is in the resurves set so you scroll down to #21Ranger and click the link:

http://www.hordelings.com/frontend/games/item.php?collectable_item_id=1819

There seems to be an error for that particular unit however it doesn’t list the “lead the way” abillity

It’s a complicated system but it’s realy all there is on the net.  I do seem to remember someone listing all the abilities on an xl sheet somewhere, that would be a good thing to post here somewhere.

@mateooo:

so that brings up the next question
can a sniper shoot from a halftrack (head shot) and then the half track move away the same turn…

i think vague, simplistic rules are being taken advantage of…

A unit can only use the fighting platform if that vehicle does not move during assault phase.
If unit attacks that vehicle with fighting platform must stay put.

@mateooo:

so that brings up the next question
can a sniper shoot from a halftrack (head shot) and then the half track move away the same turn…

i think vague, simplistic rules are being taken advantage of…

No.  “Fighting Platform” states that the vehicle cannot move if the unit aboard attacks.

I think there aren’t as many big holes in the rules as it might seems.  Of course, the fun is taking advantage of the small ones  :evil:

I’ll agree will some of the holes.

Cossack Captain on the KV1 is a cheap tactic.  While mounted on or in vehicles the Blast ability can kill.

I think snipers should be able to target infantry on tanks with transport abilities but not in transports vehicles.  I think these two things should be treated differently

Well I must say I have to 100% agree with you here on that. :x

Why would opposing infantry be afraid of a cossack captain that they can’t even see if he is riding “inside” a tank.
If he is riding outside the tank then it would make sense for intimidation to take affect.  And since Cossack would be riding outside of tank he should be subject to enemy fire.  HHR house rules states alot of these units as having exposed transport not transport ability.  We should take a vote and get rid of this cheesy tactic.  Also as far as the Brumbaar; Brumbaars blast should work on units on exposed transports not on transports.

exactly
like a cossack capt in a half-track or something
not sitting on the back of some beast tank.