Ragnell804 (German) vs TGC (Allies) Game 11


  • @Ragnell804 yes, submerge


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Libya to Palestine
                  Germans take Egypt from Middle_East
                  Germans take Palestine from Middle_East
            1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Stalingrad
                  Germans take Stalingrad from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
                  Germans take Leningrad from Russians
            1 armour moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium
                  Germans take Netherlands-Belgium from British
            1 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Northern Italy
            2 armour moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Adriatic Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Adriatic Sea Sea Zone to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tunisia
    
        Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy
                Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 2 and costs: 2 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 2 PUs
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy
                Germans win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tunisia
                Germans attack with 1 artillery
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Tunisia
                Germans win, taking Tunisia from Americans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 2 armour and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 2 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for British: 1 armour
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            5 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            1 artillery and 14 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            4 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            4 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 45 to 44
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 39 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -1.00
    Russians regular : -0.67
    Germans regular : -2.33
    

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  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 bomber moved from Moscow to Leningrad
    
        Combat - Russians
            Russians creates battle in territory Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
            Strategic bombing raid in Leningrad
                    Germans roll AA dice in Leningrad : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Leningrad rolls: 5 and costs: 5 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 5 PUs
            Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                Russians win, taking Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Germans with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from White Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Moscow
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow
            1 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Russia
    
        Place Units - Russians
            6 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 17 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : -0.17
    Russians regular : 0.67
    

  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 6 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from Norway to Karelia
                  British take Finland from Germans
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad
            1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
                  British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
            2 destroyers moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Eastern France to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Vichy France to Eastern France
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Moscow
    
        Combat - British
            Strategic bombing raid in Leningrad
                    Germans roll AA dice in Leningrad : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the British killed by AA in Leningrad
                Bombing raid costs 0 PUs
    
        Non Combat Move - British
    
        Place Units - British
            6 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : 0.83
    

  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            3 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in United States
            1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 42 PUs; end with 50 PUs
    

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  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Turkestan
                  Germans take Turkestan from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
                  Germans take Caucasus from Russians
            1 armour moved from Palestine to Iraq
                  Germans take Trans-Jordan from Middle_East
                  Germans take Iraq from Middle_East
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                  Germans take Algeria from Americans
            1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Adriatic Sea Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Moscow
            14 armour, 6 artilleries and 36 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow
            4 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Moscow
                Germans attack with 20 armour, 6 artilleries and 36 infantry
                British defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 50 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 6 artilleries and 36 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 15/62 hits, 19.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 52 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 22/57 hits, 19.83 expected hits
                    22 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                    12 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Moscow
                    Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 6 artilleries and 14 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 12/40 hits, 15.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 38 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 13/42 hits, 15.00 expected hits
                    13 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                    12 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                    Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 6 artilleries and 1 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 9/27 hits, 12.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 26 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 13/30 hits, 11.00 expected hits
                    6 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 6 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                    9 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                    Germans roll dice for 14 armour in Moscow, round 5 : 6/14 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 17 infantry in Moscow, round 5 : 10/21 hits, 8.00 expected hits
                    10 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                    6 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                    Germans roll dice for 4 armour in Moscow, round 6 : 0/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 11 infantry in Moscow, round 6 : 8/15 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                    4 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                Russians win with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -94
                Casualties for Germans: 20 armour, 6 artilleries and 36 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 bomber and 39 infantry
            Battle in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
    
        Place Units - Germans
            11 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            1 unit repaired.
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.50
    Russians regular : 6.17
    Germans regular : -13.00
    

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    GG game over, that was a horrible dice swing…


  • @Ragnell804

    Round 1 Germany:
    +1.05 Atlantic
    -2.72 East Front
    -1.67 net

    Round 2 Germany:
    +1.47 Atlantic
    -0.82 East Front
    -1.02 net

    Round 3 Germany:
    +1.64 Atlantic
    -2.68 East Front
    -0.11 Africa
    +0.83 West Front
    -0.32 net

    Round 4 Germany:
    +1.64 Atlantic
    -2.49 East Front
    +0.12 Africa
    +0.66 West Front (SBR +0.5)
    -0.07 net

    Round 5 Germany:
    +0.64 Atlantic
    -2.08 East Front
    +1.12 Africa
    +1.73 West Front (SBR -2.5)
    +1.41 net

    Shockingly, the Germans were slightly ‘up’ before rolling into G6. Otherwise, they had a 67% chance of holding Berlin on average dice and an 86% chance of taking Moscow (all on average dice). Balancing the percentages and overall dice, I feel that…

    @Ragnell804 @kwaspek104 After careful review, I believe this game is balanced with removal of the German SCA (12 IPC at start bid) and the removal of one sub - probably from the Bay of Biscay.


  • @kwaspek104 @Ragnell804 Actually, this doesn’t account for the G1 “save all IPC - threaten Sealion - force the Allies to slop their first turn purchases.” So at a bare minimum, the SCA needs to go away and one German sub. Not sure how damaging the Sealion ploy is yet. Remains to be seen. More may need to come off to balance it.


  • .67 * .86 = 57.62%

    So, pretty balanced actually. @The_Good_Captain


  • @kwaspek104

    But the allies were allowed to buy whatever they wanted on A1. It’s still not quite balanced. Maybe? The sub will do it?

    Looking for 50/50 or 71% and 70% on the critical turn…and absorbing the G1 save IPC move

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