TGC (German) vs. Ragnell804 (Allies) - Original Europe
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Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Germany to Stalingrad 12 armour, 7 artilleries and 50 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia 4 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R. 8 armour moved from Poland to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 submarine moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Central Atlantic Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Germany to Eastern France 1 artillery moved from Germany to Eastern France 4 infantry moved from Germany to Eastern France Combat - Germans Strategic bombing raid in Stalingrad Bombing raid in Stalingrad rolls: 2 and costs: 1 PU. Bombing raid costs 1 PU Battle in Eastern France Germans attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 4 infantry British defend with 1 armour and 5 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 4 infantry in Eastern France, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour and 5 infantry in Eastern France, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern France 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Eastern France Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 1 infantry in Eastern France, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Eastern France, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern France 2 infantry owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Eastern France Germans win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 4 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 5 infantry Battle in Belorussia Germans attack with 20 armour, 7 artilleries and 56 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 7 artilleries and 56 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 25/83 hits, 22.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 20 armour, 7 artilleries and 56 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Stalingrad to East Poland 3 fighters moved from Poland to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 4 fighters moved from Eastern France to East Poland 4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria Place Units - Germans 10 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 3.33 British regular : 2.00 -
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 5 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad Russians take Leningrad from Germans Combat - Russians Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 5 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 armour moved from Caucasus to Moscow 1 aaGun moved from Turkestan to Moscow 1 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow 1 armour moved from Syria to Caucasus Place Units - Russians 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Moscow Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Moscow: 1 fighter EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Moscow: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.33 Russians regular : -0.50 -
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - British British buy 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria British take Algeria from Germans 1 artillery moved from France to English Channel Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 3 destroyers moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 infantry moved from Vichy France to Northern Italy British take Northern Italy from Germans Combat - British Battle in Germany British attack with 3 artilleries and 5 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 17 infantry British roll dice for 3 destroyers in Germany, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 5 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 17 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 3/17 hits, 5.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 2 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 14 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 4/14 hits, 4.67 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany British roll dice for 1 artillery in Germany, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 12 infantry in Germany, round 4 : 4/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Germany Germans win with 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12 Casualties for British: 3 artilleries and 5 infantry Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from English Channel Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Danish Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 7 infantry moved from France to Eastern France Place Units - British 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 40 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -3.33 British regular : -0.33 -
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Central Atlantic Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Atlantic Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to English Channel Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 6 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Germany 2 bombers moved from France to Germany Combat - Americans Battle in Germany Americans attack with 7 artilleries, 2 bombers and 6 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 12 infantry Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Germany Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in Germany, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber and 6 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 5.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 12 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 4/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Germany 6 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 1/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 6 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Germany 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries and 1 bomber in Germany, round 4 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 5 infantry in Germany, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Germany 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Americans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 1 bomber in Germany, round 5 : 0/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Germany, round 5 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 1 bomber in Germany, round 6 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Germany, round 6 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Germany 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Americans captures 33PUs while taking Germans capital Americans win, taking Germany from Germans with 2 artilleries and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17 Casualties for Americans: 5 artilleries, 1 bomber and 6 infantry Casualties for Germans: 12 infantry Battle in Central Atlantic Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer Germans defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Central Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in Central Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Central Atlantic Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in Central Atlantic Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Central Atlantic Sea Zone Americans win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Americans 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from Germany to France Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United States 3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 48 PUs; end with 86 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -2.67 Germans AA : 0.67 Germans regular : 0.67 -
Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Germans Combat Move - Germans 20 armour, 7 artilleries and 56 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow 1 bomber and 7 fighters moved from East Poland to Moscow 4 infantry moved from Austria to Germany Combat - Germans Battle in Germany Germans attack with 4 infantry Americans defend with 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 1 factory Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries in Germany, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries in Germany, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Germany, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries in Germany, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Germany, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries in Germany, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Germany Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Germany, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Germany, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Germany, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Germany, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Americans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery Battle in Moscow Germans attack with 20 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 7 fighters and 56 infantry Russians defend with 4 aaGuns, 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory, 4 fighters and 61 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 2/8 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 56 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 20/89 hits, 26.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 61 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 25/82 hits, 28.50 expected hits 25 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 19 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 31 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 26/64 hits, 21.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 4 fighters and 42 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 17/62 hits, 22.00 expected hits 17 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 26 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 14 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 18/47 hits, 19.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 4 fighters and 16 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 17/36 hits, 13.33 expected hits 3 artilleries owned by the Germans and 14 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 16 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 13/30 hits, 14.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 4 artilleries and 4 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 7/18 hits, 7.33 expected hits 4 artilleries owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 9 armour owned by the Russians and 4 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 17 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Moscow, round 6 : 11/23 hits, 11.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 4 fighters in Moscow, round 6 : 5/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 4 fighters owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans captures 24PUs while taking Russians capital Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 12 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 60 Casualties for Germans: 8 armour, 7 artilleries, 2 fighters and 56 infantry Casualties for Russians: 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 61 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Baltic States 1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Baltic States 5 fighters moved from Moscow to Baltic States Turn Complete - GermansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Russians regular : -3.17 Germans regular : -6.67 Russians AA : 0.67G8.tsvg This is an allied win and I’m happy with this result. I think there are/were opportunities for both sides to tighten up the game. For my part, at the very least I should not have had the German percentages so poorly balanced with Berlin at 80% chance of falling (that was dumb). Leaving two fighters in Berlin (which would put Moscow at 75% German) or just never putting the infantry in Italy would have been the correct move.
One thing @kwaspek104 and I discovered that I’ll just declare here is this: its apparently contingent on the Germans to two things: capture Moscow and keep control of Berlin. If they fail to do both, it will be an allied win. The reason I’m saying this is bc the online community up until now seems to have missed this or not understood it and it appears to be critical.
As an example, in this game, it doesn’t matter at all that Moscow fell. The game technically continues until the Germans recapture Berlin or the Allies recapture Moscow. Without any Germany economy however, the win defaults to Allies.
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@Ragnell804 shall we go again?
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Did Ragnell seriously win a 3.5% battle with 1 trans and 1 destroyer versus 1 trans and 1 battleship? lol
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Yes, lets keep the same sides as well.
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Well it was a draw since I did lose my DD in the end…but I kind of forgot BB took 2 hits since I have been playing a lot of Classic. I was really just trying to snipe the Transport but I decided to yolo it from there.
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@kwaspek104 @Ragnell804 though it was ‘mostly’ an accident - there’s actually a 10% chance of a draw anyway. If the intent is to remove just the transport, the possibility of this is amazingly somewhere near 45%…
…if you get to the point where the transport is dead, it makes almost no sense to retreat. A very odd battle flow. Good to know this going forward.
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