Question about moving to contested territories

@theveteran

Thank you.

@JonathanMeyer:

a)Yes, units hit do get to fire back. b) The rule book is not clear on this point.  However, I would say that yes you can still bombard.  While I can see an argument going the other way based on a certain interpretation of unclear rules, logically its likely that a battleship would not wait to bombard the shore until after the landing troops had been fired upon.

You can still bombard.  Battleship bombardment is dependent upon the number of units that offloaded from transports, not how many of them actually made it ashore.

@Flashman:

I don’t think it matters a damn.

The whole problem with this game is that the Allies are so much more mobile (they can virtually teleport by sea, and can feed units into the East via India) that whatever the CPs do the Allies can immediately and effectively counter-move.

Only by allowing the CPs unlimited land movement by rail do they stand a chance of winning.

i don’t agree, i have played 6 games against the same people and won 5 out of 6 games. You can win as the Central Powers. We opted for different opening moves which stunned the Allies every time. You can’t go for a total victory but you can hang on so they give up. Taking Russia and moving all west is critical.

The emblem (or emblems) on the territory is more important than the color.  Since colonies don’t have small major power emblems on them, they aren’t considered to be aligned territories.

Adding write-up of procedure we use…
Divided into 2 parts, territory is either Original or Non-Original.

PROCEDURE:

The Revolution can occur at the end of any Russian turn starting with turn 4.
At that time an Armistice is offered FROM the new Soviet Russia power TO the Central Powers.  
The offer is NOT optional and is a ONE time offer, that is accepted or rejected.  
IF ACCEPTED…

No further battle against Russian units is permitted.  Travel into territories with ONLY Russian units is forbidden.

Non-Original Russian Territories and Sea Zones (including Serbia and Romania)
1.  Remove all Russian units.
2.  Remove all Russian sea units.
3.  Remove all Russian control tokens, plus, as applies after step 1, if territory is…
a.  Contested…
    No further action.
b.  Other AP or CP powers only…
    Captured territories goes to remaining power, or if multiple, their choice.
    Original territories, control goes to original power. Exception: If original AP
               power’s capital is captured, then control goes to other AP power (if any).
       c.  No units of any power…
            Original territories, control goes to original power.
            All other territories are uncontrolled.

Original Russian Territories
1.  Remove all Russian units, except leave 1 infantry unit where units exist.
2.  Establish territory control…
    a.  Controlled by a CP power…
         The territory remains in that CP power’s control.  The CP power will continue
 to collect IPC income.  Treat these same as any other neutral territory.  These
          can never become Russian territories again.
    b.  Contested, but only with non-Russian powers…
         1.  Add 1 Russian infantry unit.
         2.  Follow step c.
    c.  Contested…
         Territory remains contested for remainder of game.  However the CP player
  is allowed movement through the territory if it maintains a garrison.  AP players
  cannot enter these territories. Plus see step e. ** If CP leaves, it cannot re-enter.**
    d.  Occupied with other AP power(s) only…
         1.  Add 1 Russian infantry unit.
         2.  Follow step e.          
    e.  Shared with other AP power(s) (with or without CP powers)…
         AP player must leave Russia by end of their next move once the revolution
 has occurred or they will be removed from the board.  No battle is allowed in
these territories.  Contested movement restriction (pg 15) does not apply.
    f.  Controlled by Russians only…
        1.  Add 1 Russian infantry in none exists.  Entry by AP/CP powers is forbidden.

Good deal. Yeah after a few clunky games where I was looking at the rulebook every other turn I think we have it figured out. Really enjoy the contested territory mechanism. Cheers

Afternoon Pantaloon rouge.
1. It does indeed, only take one turn. Unloading ends a unit’s turn, not loading.
2. India can build as many ground or air  units as you want, but no naval units.

Glad you are enjoying the game.

Remember that also, for this reason, planes cannot participate in naval battles.