Italy active on turn 1... What?

@The_Good_Captain

Thank you so much!

@theveteran

Indeed. The Central Powers and winning in the game, Russia already capitulated (revolution).

And we may also point out that some here are no longer interested in anything more than trolling and hijacking this thread. Arguments could still be brought up with proper links to support this thing about Italy and Austria joining up, but alas we are now dealing with typos and trolling.

@Razor:

Austria cant afford to lose Albania, but can USA afford the extra trannies it takes to contest Albania rather than shucking units to France ?

It would take the same number of transports.  France and Albania are both two movements away from the US.  Shucking to Albania puts US troops within 2 moves of 2 different CP capitols.

@Flashman:

Big bank vaults?

Lol.  Got it.

I once had an idea for a version where hit points were equivalent to firepower, so:

Battleship 4-4-2 (4 hp)
Cruiser 3-3-3 (3 hp)
Destroyers 2-2-2 (2 hp)

Each ships would have the appropriate number of gun turrets, which can be removed when a hit is taken to indicate damage and reduced firepower.

Two hits slows down a BB, one a destroyer.

@Shakespeare:

Exactly how did the convoy rules work in Axis Allies Europe?

Weren’t there convoy boxes all over the North Atlantic?

Couldn’t we apply them here?

There were “Convoy territories” for lack of a better term that could be denied by German Subs that went through them.

@DarthShizNit:

@vonLettowVorbeck1914:

@Yavid:

@vonLettowVorbeck1914:

@Yavid:

There is no way to balance the game and have Italy be able to swing.

Sure there is. You just need to have the side it ends up on be determined by an investment of IPC, and whoever loses gets their IPC “invested” back.

Conceptually this would be along the lines of making promises to Italy and then if they don’t have Italy on their side, they don’t have to fulfill the promises.

Another way to do it would be to tie Italy’s entry as CP to preposterous, unlikely success against France, which would also be tied to an even earlier US entry.

Obviously it’s not easy, but to say their is “no way” is exaggerating just a bit too much.

How about no way to make the game historical and balance with an Italy that swings.

If we assume that thereis no way that Italy would have joined the CP, then I would agree with you.

Which is what we do looking at the political scene in Italy in 1915.

Funny that that game starts in 1914 then.