1914 - TGC (CP) vs. VF (Entente), oob, no bid


  • @the_good_captain
    Kill all Italian and French troops, please!


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Puchase Units - Ottomans
            Ottomans buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Ottomans
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 tank moved from Mesopotamia to Arabia
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Smyrna to Trans-Jordan
            6 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
            1 fighter moved from Mesopotamia to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
            13 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
            7 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
            2 cruisers moved from SZ 20 to SZ 17
    
        Combat - Ottomans
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Ottomans attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 2 tanks
                British defend with 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Italians defend with 1 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                    Ottomans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 2 tanks in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 2 artilleries and 8 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the Ottomans
                    4 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 3 infantry owned by the French, 1 infantry owned by the Italians, 1 infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Trans-Jordan
                French and Ottomans reach a stalemate
                . Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Ottomans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Arabia
                Ottomans attack with 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 tank
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Ottomans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 tank in Arabia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Arabia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the Ottomans
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Arabia
                Ottomans win, taking Arabia from British with 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Ottomans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Place Units - Ottomans
            7 infantry placed in Constantinople
    
        Turn Complete - Ottomans
            Ottomans collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 1.00
    Ottomans regular : -0.00
    British regular : 0.50
    

    O16.tsvg


  • @the_good_captain
    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Puchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            2 infantry moved from Piedmont to Venice
            1 tank moved from Switzerland to Venice
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Marseilles to Burgundy
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 16
            6 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
            1 artillery, 7 infantry and 5 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
            2 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles
            1 artillery moved from Piedmont to Venice
            1 infantry moved from Piedmont to Burgundy
            3 cruisers moved from SZ 9 to SZ 14
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Venice
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank
                AustroHungarians defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank in Venice, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Venice, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Venice
                Americans win, taking Venice from AustroHungarians with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in United States of America
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0,67
    AustroHungarians regular : -0,50[i16+US16.tsvg](/forums/assets/uploads/files/1660213932508-i16-us16.tsvg)
    


  • @victoryfirst
    The Italians didn’t do anything so I thought I’ll combine them with the American turn :)


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
            AustroHungarians buy 3 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - AustroHungarians
            2 units repaired.
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Tuscany: 4 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Switzerland: 4 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from Naples to Venice
            1 tank moved from Naples to Tuscany
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Naples to SZ 17
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Egypt
                  AustroHungarians take Egypt from British
            2 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trieste to Tyrolia
            1 artillery, 14 infantry and 1 tank moved from Vienna to Tyrolia
            2 infantry moved from Romania to Sevastopol
            1 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Tatarstan
            3 artilleries moved from Sevastopol to Mesopotamia
            1 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Mesopotamia
            4 infantry moved from Budapest to Romania
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
            1 tank moved from Tyrolia to Venice
            3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 37 infantry and 1 tank moved from Tyrolia to Switzerland
            11 artilleries, 6 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Tuscany to Venice
    
        Combat - AustroHungarians
            Battle in Switzerland
                AustroHungarians attack with 3 artilleries, 7 fighters, 37 infantry and 1 tank
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 3 artilleries, 7 fighters, 37 infantry and 1 tank in Switzerland, round 2 : 21/48 hits, 17.50 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Switzerland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the AustroHungarians
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Switzerland
                AustroHungarians win, taking Switzerland from French with 3 artilleries, 7 fighters, 37 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in Venice
                AustroHungarians attack with 11 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 3 tanks
                Americans defend with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 11 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 3 tanks in Venice, round 2 : 12/21 hits, 12.17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank in Venice, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the Americans and 1 tank owned by the Americans lost in Venice
                AustroHungarians win, taking Venice from Americans with 11 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank
    
        Combat Move - AustroHungarians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Place Units - AustroHungarians
            3 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 tank placed in Vienna
    
        Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
            AustroHungarians collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -1.67
    French regular : 0.50
    AustroHungarians regular : 3.33
    

    AH17.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Puchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 units repaired.
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Munich: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            6 infantry moved from Hanover to Kiel
            2 tanks moved from Hanover to Kiel
            3 artilleries moved from Hanover to Kiel
            1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
            1 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Sevastopol
            4 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Mesopotamia
            2 fighters moved from Munich to Kiel
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Kiel
                Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 16 infantry and 2 tanks
                French defend with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 port
                    Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 16 infantry and 2 tanks in Kiel, round 2 : 13/24 hits, 10.00 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kiel, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the Germans
                    2 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Kiel
                Germans win, taking Kiel from French with 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 16 infantry and 2 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Munich: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 11 infantry placed in Berlin
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 0.50
    Germans regular : 3.00
    

    G17.tsvg


  • @the_good_captain
    Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Puchase Units - French
            French buy 1 fighter and 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - French
            8 units repaired.
            2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Lorraine to Burgundy
            3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 10 infantry and 1 tank moved from Paris to Burgundy
    
        Combat - French
            French creates battle in territory Munich
            Battle in Munich
                French attack with 20 artilleries, 31 infantry and 8 tanks
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    French roll dice for 20 artilleries, 31 infantry and 8 tanks in Munich, round 2 : 32/59 hits, 26,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Munich, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Munich
                French win with 20 artilleries, 31 infantry and 8 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - French
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these French owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these French owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Place Units - French
            1 fighter and 14 infantry placed in Paris
    
        Turn Complete - French
            French collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 5,67
    Germans regular : -0,50
    

    F17.tsvg


  • @the_good_captain
    Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Puchase Units - British
            British buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Trans-Jordan: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Trans-Jordan: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 battleship, 5 cruisers and 2 transports moved from SZ 10 to SZ 9
            4 infantry moved from London to SZ 9
            4 infantry moved from SZ 9 to Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Holland
            1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Alsace
            6 infantry moved from Ruhr to Munich
            2 infantry moved from India to SZ 29
            6 infantry moved from India to Persia
            1 transport moved from SZ 28 to SZ 29
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 29 to SZ 28
            2 infantry moved from SZ 28 to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
    
        Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Trans-Jordan: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Place Units - British
            4 infantry placed in London
            8 infantry placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 35 PUs; end with 37 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :
    B17.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Puchase Units - Ottomans
            Ottomans buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Ottomans
            3 units repaired.
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 tank moved from Arabia to Trans-Jordan
            7 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
            7 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
            3 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
            9 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
    
        Combat - Ottomans
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Ottomans attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 3 tanks
                British defend with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                    Ottomans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 3 tanks in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 10/15 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the Ottomans
                    1 artillery owned by the British and 4 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan
                Ottomans win, taking Trans-Jordan from French with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Ottomans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Ottomans owned units to: tank = 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Place Units - Ottomans
            7 infantry placed in Constantinople
    
        Turn Complete - Ottomans
            Ottomans collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -0.50
    Ottomans regular : 3.00
    

    O17.tsvg


  • @the_good_captain
    Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Puchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 16
            1 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 16
            4 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 16
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Marseilles to Burgundy
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Burgundy to Picardy
            3 cruisers moved from SZ 14 to SZ 16
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
            5 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
            1 artillery moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
            3 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
            2 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in United States of America
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    I17+US17.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst friendly observation. Did you mean to leave the US transports in SZ 14 alone? An Austro-Hungarian submarine can slip under the fleet in SZ16 and eliminate them all (as long as he doesn’t get hit by the mines in SZ16 of course).


  • @the_good_captain
    No, my bad! I didn’t realize the subs could move past my fleet :)

    Here is the edited turn:
    US17_edited.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 18
    
        Puchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 units repaired.
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Hanover to Kiel
            1 artillery and 11 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
    
        Place Units - Germans
            12 infantry placed in Berlin
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
    

    G18.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst I’ll post this for reference (page 16). Submarines are so different between different versions of axis and allies and are just complicated in general. I like to tell other players, “If you think you understand submarines, you don’t understand submarines.” hah!

    *also, sorry about not posting the AH turn. I forgot to paste the game turn summary for AH before I copied over it with Germany. No big deal though. You can see the game history to see what moved where, etc.

    Capture.PNG


  • @the_good_captain
    Alright, I know this game is far from over yet, but I can already tell I will not be on the winning side. The TUV is almost the same, and my production is a bit higher, but you will break into Africa, which is a tricky area for me to defend. The Western Front has been a stalemate for some time, but with a lot of angry Austro-Hungarians coming, I have to retreat a little bit :) I can probably put up a defensive line and hold out a couple of turns, but eventually, the CP will have too much stuff and I will get pushed back further, which leads to you having more income, more units can be brought in, etc…

    So yeah, basically I was a bit too slow as the Allies in my opinion. I should have stacked Italy up a bit earlier than the Americans, I realized it too late :)

    You played very well as the CP. I thought if Russia survived for a long enough time, I could expect an Allied victory, but this wasn’t the case. You hold out very well as Germany, and after Italy fell, the strong Austria-Hungarians came in and I had no chance whatsoever to break through your lines. You did an excellent job of spending the correct amount of resources in each theater. If you had spent a little more on the Russian front, the Western Front would have maybe collapsed. If you had spent a little more on the Western Front, Russia would probably have survived a bit longer, giving the Allies more time.

    So, here is it officially, I’ll raise the white flag and there is after years of fighting finally peace in Europe :)

    Things I will do differently in a next game as the Allies (would you like to play another? I do!):

    • Making sure Italy doesn’t fall

    • Spend more resources for India (I didn’t like how India was boxed in like that lol :)

    • Be decisive with the Americans (I was not sure what is best to do with them. First I invaded Greece, after that failed I stacked up the Western Front and when Italy was about to fall, I stacked up Rome but I was too late xD)

    I still think the Triple Entente has the advantage, as if Italy survived and I kept Africa secure, I would probably have had an income advantage. It seems like there are too many enemy units for the CP. There is a threat here, I have to take this out, I want to defend against this, I have to take that but I don’t have enough units and so on.

    Let me know your thoughts on this game. I really liked playing this game against a human opponent and I would also like to play another. Are you going to make some videos about this game in the future? I would love to watch them!


  • @victoryfirst thanks for writing this. It’s helpful to understand the other side.

    For the CP, I cannot tell if it is better to capture all the Russian territories or to create the Revolution. It was nice having all that money but so expensive to protect against the British in India. With the Revolution, I would not have had to defend Sevastopol AND Mesopotamia. It’s not clear to me what is better at this point.

    YES, I would love to play another. I will get AH1 out shortly and good game my friend! =)

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