Seaplanes

@jyardley https://discord.gg/t4JkFdNwpR

@tank-nut

Hey there!

So, I have the V3 map, I haven’t upgraded to V4 yet. But I do know that the V4 map differs in some ways from the V2 map. I can’t remember specifically all of the changes, but there’s more territories now. There’s an extra territory each in England and Japan I know for sure, for example. and I believe an added territory in Norway as well. So while not a ton of changes, there are some that I believe affect the initial setup. I’m sure you could tweak a bit though to make it work if needed. And of course there’s the added terrain features as you mention. Funny you mention not liking the jungle terrain, I specifically bought the V3 map at the time because I wanted the added terrain features!

It’s been a couple years now, so I can’t remember our specifics, but I remember us using our V2 map and using the V3 rules and we just tweaked some set up and/or rules as needed to make it playable before we pulled the trigger on buying the V3 map.

Hope that helps! And I hope you find some UK players!

@meyott Hey there! I haven’t been able to bust the game out in a while, so I’m maybe a bit rusty here, but I believe these should answer your questions.

When Greek Alignment happens would depend on at what point in the game Turkey is Aligned too. If the Axis win Influence over Greece before they’re at war with anyone, then Turkey would not be Aligned with the Axis just yet, and so Greece would not be able to become Aligned with the Allies right away. If the Axis was at war with the Allies, then Greece would become Allied Aligned immediately.

There’s seemingly a bit of contradiction between the Turkey At War Expansion rules, and the Turkey Reference sheet though.

The Reference Sheet states that “If Turkey becomes Axis Aligned (i.e. its at war with the Same Major Power as Germany Japan or Italy), Greece will immediately become Allied Aligned”.

The Expansion rules at 1.5© and 1.6 state:

“1.5© Declaration of War: Even if Turkey becomes Aligned to a Major Power an independent run Turkey is not forced to declare war and can remain neutral until it wishes to. Other nations can declare war on Turkey as per Global War Rules”;

“1.6 Greece: If Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, Greece will immediately become Allied Aligned”.

So to me, the Reference sheet is saying that Greece becomes Aligned with the Allies when Turkey is at war with the same Major power as the Axis, but the Expansion rules at 1.6 just say Greece becomes Allied Aligned the moment Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, seemingly regardless of Turkey’s belligerent status.

I know that’s not me really answering the question, haha. We’ve played based on what the Expansion Rules say though and not the Reference sheet, meaning that once Turkey becomes Axis Aligned, Greece will become Allied Aligned, regardless of Turkish war status.

Good point on Home Country here. I guess I’d refer to the rulebook for “Home Country”:

“Each nation has a group of land zones that comprise their Home Country as defined on the National Reference Sheet. For a Minor Power the Home Country includes the primary nation but not its colonies, islands or conquered land zones”.

@ButterSurge

Im trying to create a basic framework for the rise of the Axis powers very similar to the one sported by HBGs Global 1936. It is my hope this script will get the ball rolling so to speak. If anyone has any suggestions to improve or expand such a script, please feel free to share.

The Diplomatic script

ROUND 1

Germany annexes Austria
UK and France incomes increase by 1 IPP each

Italy annexes Albania

ROUND 2

Germany annexes Czechoslavakia
UK and France incomes increase by 1 IPP each

Italy may invade Abyasinia
UK income increases by 1 IPP if Italy occupies Abyasinia

Japan may invade China
FEC and ANZAC incomes increase by 1 IPP for every Chinese territory Japan occupies until at war with Japan

USA may invade Mexico
CSA income increases by 1 IPP for every Mexican territory the USA occupies until at war with the USA

ROUND 3

USA may occupy Cuba
UK and CSA incomes increase by 1 IPP each

ROUNDS 4-6

The status quo continues until global war

ROUND 7

WW2 begins, Germany invades Poland and the Entente minus the CSA, declare war on Germany exclusively

The Molotov-Ribontrop pact is signed, Eastern Europe is divided between Germany and the USSR and the USSR agrees to lend-lease Germany 3 oil and 3 iron ore per turn until they are at war

If Germany captures Paris, Finland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Venazeula, and Argentina become pro-Axis

Italy and Turkey may join the Axis at their descretion from now on

ROUND 8

The USA and Japan may sign the Pacific Mutual Security Pact, stipulating the USA will cede the Phillipines, Guam, Wake and Midway island to Japan and the USA promises to lend-lease Japan 3 oil and 3 iron ore per turn until either power is defeated, the game ends, or if “Japan leaves the Axis”* at a later date. Japan and the USA then must declare war on the Entente jointly. The CSA will then join the Entente and declare war on the USA.

*Japan may leave the Axis and act as a free-agent after round 12, this allows to Japan to attack any power and make peace on their own without the consent of their allies.

You’re welcome

@nilboggen https://discord.gg/S5UNMf3c5H

@Trig Quite facinating ref sheet! Do you have a complete version available for publication?

@insaneHoshi Hi, I meant that if the Seaplane have a patrol range of 2 instead of 1 from the start - that would mean that the allies can cover all convoy spaces with aircraft from start. That would be wrong, historically. So the range should be 1 to simulate the Atlantic gap problem the allies had.