Bid for 1942 scenario?

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 9 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 9 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - Chinese Chinese builds 3 units. Non Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Italy to France 2 fighters moved from 13 Sea Zone to France 1 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to 13 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Morocco Algeria to 13 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to 13 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Morocco Algeria to 13 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 13 Sea Zone to France 2 artilleries moved from 13 Sea Zone to France 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria 4 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria 1 armour moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 13 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 12 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 13 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 14 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 14 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland 2 artilleries moved from Baltic States to Poland Place Units - Americans 6 armour placed in Italy 3 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Eastern United States Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Hupeh to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Hupeh to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Hupeh to Fukien Combat - Chinese Battle in Fukien Chinese attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 armour Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Fukien, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Fukien, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Fukien Chinese win, taking Fukien from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Hupeh to Suiyuan Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Hupeh Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs Objective 1: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs Objective 3: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1,17 Japanese regular : 0,50

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That’s my concern too, but if the USA distracts Japan, then Britain should be able to send tanks to the Caucuses reasonably quickly.

The way I play Germany, the Germans tend to have a large airforce to destroy any Allied navy in the Atlantic. If the Germans do squander their air force and don’t keep it up, then Britain would be able to use its IPCs to build a fleet to land in Norway or something.

The other thing is that this denies Germany/Italy the African IPCs, so it does help contain the Germans.

Hi all,

Is there a standard bid/bid range for the Anniversary 1942 scenario?  Or is it considered well-balanced enough that a bid is not normally needed?

@Cmdr:

I have to admit, I really enjoy the idea of closed dardenelles.  I like tech, but life is SOOOO much easier for Russia if Italy cannot attack them directly.

Perhaps, I guess, 1 allied player vs 3 axis players would also balance things.

I also like closed Dardenelles, but my group will never agree to it.  Allies have to make up for it by landing in France turn 1.  Yes, Italy retakes it, but it keeps Italy away from Russia, and with NOs, UK trades 3-6 IPCs for 11.

Imo, # of players makes no difference.  At least wit the people I play with, both Axis and Allies work very well together.  I’ve seen Italy do amazing things.  UK lands in Poland, Italy retakes Poland.

the discussion has been 42, but has gone into strategy.

When AA50 first came out, 41 was new and unbroken ground.  Now that some time has passed, I think 42 is still the Axis and Allies setup to play, only with bigger board!  The addition of Italy for a 3 vs 3 game makes it balanced.  Short games still favor Axis and long games still favor Allies.  It’s how it should be.

Can’t wait for G40!!!

Balance issues… Dardanelles should always be closed… NOs favor the Axis, hands down.

Something not in the rules, but a very simple House rule our group uses for both balance and just plain fun…

90% of the time, Japan nukes the Flying Tigers in China on turn 1 before the Allies get to make a single move with them. They are basically placed in a “please kill me” position.

Our group always allows the Allied player the choice to place the Flying Tigers anywhere they want within China on the initial setup… it’s a very minor concession both for play balance and strategic fun.

As Japan I always build an IC in the East Indies turn 2 regardless of setup. East Indies can reach Egypt, India, Australia, Persia and other parts of Africa while facing little threat from anyone. After turn 3 or 4 you’re ready for an India IC and can start pumping 7 units toward caucasus.

As for the Pacific theatre. A smart US player will send a large fleet off the coast of Alaska with supporting bombers in Alaska as well as 3 or 4 counterattacking subs off San Francisco. If Japan strikes their navy the rest will be destroyed with sneak attacks and bombers. The US can keep this up until there are no boats left and then an invasion force can move in. Part of this allied strategy invloves the UK going all out in the Atlantic because it’ll be awhile before the US can help BUT not letting Japan take over the world will be worth it in the long run. In '42 Japan has to buy at least a sub and destroyer to go with two more transports. The US navy is very strong to start '42 plus you may not attack the carrier, fighter, destroyer in Pearl Harbour.

Don’t know whether it has been posted or not, but here is MY opening. I buy 2 inf 2 art 2 arm.

3 inf Kar to Bel
3 inf Arc to Bel
2 inf 1 fig Cau to Ukr
1 bom Rus to Ukr
1 inf 1 art 1 arm Cau to Euk
3 inf 1 art 2 arm Rus to Euk
1 arm Arc to Euk

If I have a bid greater than 5, I throw 1 inf Egy, and 1 inf (or more) into either Cau or Rus. Those units attack Euk as well. I place 2 inf 2 arm in Cau, 2 art in Rus, with 2 inf Nov coming into Russia. Bomber and Fighter of Ukr for Cau.