1942.2 total vic. w/ int: Zombie69 (Axis) vs Commando Brado (Allies + 12)

@Zombie69:

Please disregard the above post. Here’s the up-to-date one.

I need you to pick your losses for SZ 13. Note that there’s a 54% chance I’ll take Morocco, so if you sink the carrier and I retreat, your plane could be lost. You’re lucky I only scored 6 hits in 15 dice, or there would be no choice to make! :evil: (Actually, there might have been one in the first round of combat if I had scored more than 3 hits with my 9 planes.)

Please use the second save, since the first round of combat was an obvious choice with 2 destroyers and an empty carrier to take as losses.

Basically, you’ve got one unit to choose to protect your transports, and you’ve got a choice between a fighter, a cruiser and a carrier.

You’re lucky I only got 2 hits in Round 2 and no hits in Round 4.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 5 armour; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Algeria
                  British take Algeria from Germans

Combat - British

Non Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Persia
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Persia
            1 armour moved from Alaska to Eastern Canada
            1 infantry moved from Alaska to Western Canada
            1 carrier moved from 29 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 29 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 35 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            3 armour placed in India
            2 armour placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to French West Africa: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Territory Summary for British :

35 Sea Zone : 2 carriers and 4 fighters
    Algeria : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Eastern Australia : 1 infantry
    Eastern Canada : 1 armour
    Egypt : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    French West Africa : 1 fighter
    India : 9 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory and 5 infantry
    Libya : 1 flag
    New Zealand : 1 infantry
    Persia : 2 armour and 2 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 3 infantry
    Western Canada : 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 14 / 23
    Germans : 45 / 46
    British : 32 / 34
    Japanese : 37 / 38
    Americans : 40 / 39

@Zombie69:

The battle in India was very one-sided, sorry about that. On average I was supposed to take it with one artillery while losing one fighter. Still, even with standard outcomes, I believe the game was pretty much over with no American fleet to speak of and Brits taken out of the equation everywhere but in Africa.  :|

Uh YEA!!! VERY much one sided! LOL!  :-(  :-o  :?  :lol:  :x  :-P  :oops:  :cry:  :roll:  :| You’re exactly right. You should have taken it w/1 Art, while losing one of your fighters. That was totally slated in your favor. You have 4 Inf & 4 Art too much in India.  :-P

The whole idea behind me putting my 2 Brit AC’s w/4 FTR’s in SZ35 was to force you to either attack the American fleet in SZ58 or attack the Brit fleet in SZ35. From the odds calculator, you would have had to bring 3 of your FTR’s to the fleet battle in SZ35 w/all of your fleet, plus 1 FTR, 3 Bmbr’s to India, pretty much preventing you from doing both. Saving India. If your fleet did come down to SZ35, then I would have whacked them w/the American airforce. AND, India still would have been able to have been taken back w/the American tank in TJ, plus the bomber. Then, reinforced by the Brits in Persia. And, India could have built that turn. W/out any Japanese transports, plus the tanks coming down from Russia, I believe I could’ve held India. However, when you get amazing dicing like you did in India, it’s pretty hard to overcome those odds.

I completely spaced on the FTR’s in Yakut reaching SZ58. Like I said, I figured you’d need your entire fleet this turn to take India, therefore I figured you might attack the US fleet in SZ58 w/your fleet, then I could whack you back in SZ58. Or, you wouldn’t have attacked India this turn, not attacked the US fleet, giving the US more naval superiority in the Pacific.

In hindsight, I would have done something slightly different w/the US. And, if I had left my fleet in SZ13, I would have left 4 FTR’s there instead of 2. Or, just moved my US fleet all together and taken Norway.

Anyway, good game. Like I said, this is my first 1942.2 game, so there was a little bit of a learning curve. Wanna play again?  :-D Same sides? Same bid? I

I’m going to take the US and Russia turn just for the kicks of it, just to see what happens…  :-P

About the right odds in India w/the US.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 destroyer and 5 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to India
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to India

Combat - Americans
            Battle in India
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 4 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries, 1 factory and 4 infantry
                    AA fire in India :  1/3 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in India
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 3 fighters in India, round 2 :  3/5 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 4 infantry in India, round 2 :  3/9 hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Americans, 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in India
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in India, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 5 artilleries and 2 infantry in India, round 3 :  2/7 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 armour owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in India
                Japanese win with 5 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -44
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 bomber and 4 fighters
            Battle in 58 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 58 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 58 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 58 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Alaska
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Alaska
            1 aaGun moved from Western Canada to Alaska
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
            1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer and 5 submarines placed in 56 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

Territory Summary for Americans :

11 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    35 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    56 Sea Zone : 4 destroyers and 6 submarines
    58 Sea Zone : 2 submarines
    Alaska : 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
    Eastern Canada : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    Eastern United States : 1 factory
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Western United States : 1 factory

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 11 / 23
    Germans : 45 / 46
    British : 29 / 34
    Japanese : 43 / 44
    Americans : 40 / 41

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 6 times
            2 was rolled 5 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 10 times
        Average roll : 3.655
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.821
        Standard Deviation : 1.350
        Total rolls : 29

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 4 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 7 times
        Average roll : 3.800
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.158
        Standard Deviation : 1.076
        Total rolls : 20

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3.333
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : 1.375
        Standard Deviation : 1.173
        Total rolls : 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Anhwei
                  Americans take Anhwei from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Szechwan
                  Americans take Szechwan from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Evenki National Okrug
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Archangel
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 artillery moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Evenki National Okrug
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Evenki National Okrug
                Russians attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Evenki National Okrug
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians retreated to Sinkiang
                Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Archangel
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
            Battle in Kazakh S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in West Russia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
                Russians win, taking West Russia from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Russia to Persia
            1 armour moved from Russia to Persia
            1 armour moved from Russia to Persia
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Anhwei : 1 infantry
    Archangel : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Caucasus : 1 artillery and 1 factory
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Persia : 3 armour
    Russia : 10 artilleries, 1 factory and 9 infantry
    Sinkiang : 1 infantry
    Szechwan : 1 infantry
    West Russia : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 20 / 20
    Germans : 38 / 46
    British : 29 / 34
    Japanese : 39 / 44
    Americans : 42 / 41

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 12 times
            2 was rolled 8 times
            3 was rolled 7 times
            4 was rolled 6 times
            5 was rolled 6 times
            6 was rolled 16 times
        Average roll : 3.618
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.500
        Standard Deviation : 1.225
        Total rolls : 55

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 5 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 4 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 8 times
        Average roll : 3.667
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 1.217
        Standard Deviation : 1.103
        Total rolls : 24

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.800
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.250
        Standard Deviation : 1.118
        Total rolls : 5

Russians Combat
            1 was rolled 4 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.647
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.812
        Standard Deviation : 0.901
        Total rolls : 17

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3.333
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : 1.375
        Standard Deviation : 1.173
        Total rolls : 9

Pretty sure I’ll lose this one but let’s play it out for another round to see what happens. Do you want to start another game to coincide with this one? Same sides? Same bid? Or, I can play the Axis this time w/the bid we agreed to before. But regardless, will you give me another game w/me playing the Allies, same bid to try and redeem myself?  :-D

I’ll let you beat me up for another round on this one if you’re game?

I could still destroy it even with 2 more fighters, or if you took Norway (in range of the 3 subs). As it is, I destroyed it easily and on average should have lost one less bomber than I did. Still, I had two bombers left. I made the mistake earlier of not leaving my planes in range and letting it move there, but now that they were in range, you had to get out. Your best move was to send 6 fighters and a bomber on my Med fleet, while retreating and building more fleet on the US East Coast.

Yes, you could have destroyed the US fleet w/2 more FTR’s. The idea would be to destroy more German airforce. But, the idea was all hands on deck to try and save India AND if Japan moved it’s fleet to the SZ off India, whack it with the 4 US FTR’s and 1 US SBR. And, if Japan didn’t move it’s fleet there, then I would have 4 US FTR’s to move into India if necessary. In hindsight, as discussed, it would have been better for me to move my fleet completely out of harms way, still allowing me to protect Britain if necessary, not attack Morocco at all and just attack Norway w/1 Trans, 2 Inf & 1 US SBR in England. Or, not attack Norway at all. SZ2 would have been a good place for the US fleet to be safe. With the 2 US Trans, 3 Inf 1 Art in SZ2, I could have attacked Norway the following turn. Like I said, I was trying to save India, which was obviously key for the Allies to continue the game and have a reasonable chance of winning. I was trying to press the Axis and hopefully get a little lucky w/dicing.

If I had done something a little different w/the US, I could have had a better showing. Losing the Brit SBR in the beginning hurt as well.

In the marketplace forum, you said you played twice with your board game!  wink

I played it twice w/my 16 year old son. That doesn’t count.  :-P I was trying to teach him the mechanics of the game. And, that was some time ago when the game first came out.

Before we started the game, you suggested taking the Allies with 12 and letting me take them with 8 in the next game. Wanna try that instead? I need more work with my Allies, as the only 1942.2 game I’ve ever lost was with the Allies.

Ok, sounds good. I’ll take the Axis, giving you the Allies at +8. Start a new thread, place your units and take the Russian turn.