Strategic Bombing Runs Rule

@Imperious:

Unit on both sites are drawing board, partially developed, or fully developed naval and air units. The LZ-135 was never built, only drafted on paper and in this sense it was real.

A fair point, though it should be remembered that some on-the-drawing-board concepts are less real than others.  Germany’s proposed H-Class battleships began as realistic designs in 1938 or 1939, and one or two of them were actually laid down.  When the construction work was suspended, however, drawing-board work continued on-and-off until 1944.  The design kept getting upgraded, and kept getting more and more unrealistic; from about 1941 onward, these designs can be regarded as purely paper studies, with zero chance of being built and thus little need to keep practicalities into account.  But at least they were being designed by competent naval architects, in contrast with Hitler’s propensity for sketching battleship designs on the back of envelopes.  (This fondness was an odd one, in view of his land-warfare orientation, but wasn’t entirely out of character: he believed that he knew more about warfare than his professionally-trained generals, and he similarly felt that he could come up with better battleship designs than professional naval architects.)  Hitler once proposed building a battleship armed with 800mm guns of the Gustav / Dora railway artillery type; in a rare example of common sense winning over Hitler’s fondness for gigantism (as illustrated by the 188-tonne Maus tank), an admiral managed to talk him out of the idea by pointing out that no existing German harbour was large enough to accommodate a ship big enough to carry guns of that size.

Hi guys, I was wondering if someone could give me some insight into changing some stuff in triple A. I am wanting to make a 2 turn game where all the axis can move at once then all of Allies.(UK being one economy). Also changing a few of the PU placements etc.

Cheers, TDS

@Uncrustable:

Maybe just limit this 2 moves to 1M unit for Non-Combat Move.
It is difficult to deploy units in combat order while travelling by train.
So all other M2 units will still get an advantage over the rail movement.

Not sure what your saying here, but it makes no sense to limit rail to certain units. And like i said would unbalanced land purchases.
It is a noncombat only move.
I thought it was also possible to make an attack move for 1M unit. Otherwise, why would a 2 Move units can have an interest to pick a 1M unit place? This 2M units can go as farther, and anywhere.

SORRy, I reread the post, you add+1 to all ground units. Fine.

Your IC idea makes sense.
But how would you do it?
It would most likely create confusion yes?
No difference from a regular SBr, just watch how many damage token under IC and reduce the number of unit moving 2 spaces by the same amounts. Damage on StRail is included in the regular damage on IC from the SBR.

Another way to limit it is never allowing SM from any VC outside of ‘friendly home territories’
So the Axis would never SM from a VC in Allied territory, but they can within each others home lands. OK, I agree.
Likewise for the Allies.
This both adds historical realism (destruction of the land/cities and everything within during the battles fought to occupy enemy soil)
and keeps it from being too powerful

**The Cliffside Bunker

House Rules for Delta Games**

Setup

In the event of a 6 player group game, the nations will be divided as follows:

Germany
Japan
Italy
The United Kingdom / France
The United States / ANZAC
The Soviet Union / China

In the event of a 7 player group game, the nations will be divided as follows:

Germany
Japan
Italy
The United Kingdom
The United States
The Soviet Union
France / ANZAC / China

Unit Profiles

Damaged Battleships may not bombard during an amphibious assault.

Cruisers attack @4 when combined with an undamaged Battleship

National Objectives

Modified

$5 for Germany for each of the following territories the Axis powers control, Lenningrad, Stalingrad, and/or Moscow. However, the the Baltic sea may not contain allied ships.

Added

-$5 for Germany if Axis control London

-$5 for Japan if Axis control all of China’s original territories.

-$5 for United Kingdom if there are no Axis warships in the Atlantic.

Neutral Blocks

Attacks on any strict neutral territory in one neutral block will turn all other strict neutral territories within that same block, into pro-neutral territories for the other side. The two neutral blocks are: South America, and the rest of the world.

Research & Development

Using this rule, you may attempt to develop improved military technology. If you decide to use Research & Development, it becomes the new phase 1 of the turn sequence, bumping the other phases up a number.

China may not do Research and Development. Research and Development Sequence

1. Buy research dice
2. Roll research dice
3. Roll breakthrough die
4. Mark developments

Step 1: Buy Research Dice
You may purchase a pair of research dice for 6 IPCs, and you may only purchase a maximum of 3 pairs per turn (6 dice).

Step 2: Roll Research Dice
Roll each of your purchased research dice. Success: If you roll at least one 6, Continue to step 3. Failure: If you don’t roll a 6, your research has failed.

Step 3: Roll Breakthrough Die
If your research was successful, choose one of the three breakthrough charts and roll a die to see which technological advance you get.

Step 4. Mark Developments
If your research was successful, place one of your national control markers inside the appropriate advancement box on the Research and Development chart. Your development becomes effective immediately. Any number of powers may develop the same technology, but powers can’t share their technology, and powers may never gain the same technology twice.

Advanced Weapon Chart #1

1- Conscripts & Volunteers
Receive 2 free Infantry units during each purchase new units phase.

2- Radar
All air bases may now scramble up to 4 eligible air units, and interceptors now defend @ 2.

3- Rockets
One rocket from each AA Gun may be fired toward an enemy Complex or Facility at least 3 spaces away. During the Conduct Combat phase, roll one dice for each AA Gun to determine damage on each enemy target.

4- Mass Production
Choose land, air, or sea. During each Purchase New Units phase, the cost of all units from that military arm (not including infantry) is decreased by one.

5- Blitzkrieg Tactics
Artillery may now move 2 spaces when combined with a Mechanized Infantry.

6- Convoy Tactics
Transports now defend @1.

Advanced Weapon Chart #2

1- Long Range Aircraft
The maximum movement points of all air units has increased by one.

2- Submarine Tactics
Submarines attack @3 when there are more than one.

3- Super Carrier Decks
The maximum capacity of all Aircraft Carriers is now 3 Fighters and/or Tac, Bombers.

4- Ace Pilot
Receive one free Fighter unit (French blue) and place it on your Capital. That air unit delivers an automatic hit during each combat round when attacking and defending.

5- Armored Hulls
All Battleships now require 3 hits before sinking.

6- Heavy Bombers
All Strategic Bombers receive 2 dice each when attacking.

Advanced Weapon Chart #3

1- Espionage
Roll 1 dice and choose that number on any of the three breakthrough charts (may not be a weapon that was already developed by your nation, including Espionage).

2- War Bonds
During each collect income phase, roll 1d6 and collect the amount rolled.

3- Paratroopers
Strategic bombers operating from an air base may load up to 2 infantry each, and drop then into a hostile land territory during the Combat Movement phase. Bombers may be used as a transport or a bomber during the Combat Movement phase (not both).

4- Jet Fighters
All Fighters now attack @4.

5- Propaganda
Choose one strict neutral territory, this territory immediately becomes a pro-neutral territory for your side.

6- Nuclear Warfare
Receive one free Strategic Bomber containing an A-Bomb (French blue) and place it on your Capital. Deploy it like a Strategic Bomber in order to conduct a SBR on any hostile land territory of your choice. If the bomber survives (SBR rules), a 1d6 is rolled to determine automatic casualties of any removable land or air units within that territory (chosen by defender), and the IPC value of that territory becomes zero for the remainder of the game. Immediately remove the Bomber from the board once it has been used.

Hi, just joined the website, but I have been playing A+A for a long time.  My friends and I played with our own rules, but they  were all even balanced for the most part.  And ohhh boy did we play!  Did all of you get the dreams?  I swear some nights I would have these dreams like “I had three tanks, 5 guys, and 2 fighters….”, replaying these battle sequences in my dream!

We used 8 sided dice, 18 different units not counting artillery, AA gun or IC, 3 different Tech charts with 8 techs each. We had Auto buy which were free units at the star of your turn and Capital Surplus which was a roll at the end of your turn, if you get a good roll then you get a free piece.  We used the Cards of War, which is a deck of cards that I made which help on offense, defense and misc situations.  And of course we played on a home made map.

Before Artillery was introduced in the AA Europe Expansion I think, my friends and I had a custom piece called an Artillery that  was different than the official rules when they came out.  It all started with Germany…how times has an Axis player faced endless UK and American transports just carting dudes in.  And how many times has there been a wall of Russian troops in Karilea?  So I came up with an Artillery…which was an AA gun with a country marker under it.  And it was ruled like a typical AA gun…only one per territory, one on a transport…etc.  but the special thing about the Artillery was that it rolled one die for every defending unit, and hits on a roll of a one.  That’s right…it cost 10 bucks and moved one space and had a range of 2 spaces.  If that isn’t strong enough it could also be used to attack naval units!  As long as a fighter or bomber attack the boats also, an Artillery or two (if in range) could be used as well.  So if UK had 5 transports and a battleship, Germany could attack that fleet with 1 fighter and 2 artillerys.  The artillerys would roll 12 dice total!  Oh yeah, they only fire once per battle.

But in time the aritllerys got used and abused, we even made a new tech called Long Range Artillery to make it really crazy.  Another tech we had was Gunboat Technology, which let transports holding an AA gun or an Artillery and fire then at land or air pieces.  Then another tech we had was Defensive Artillery which meant if you attacked one of my properties and I had an artillery in it, then before you rolled your attack my artillery would first attack you and roll one die for each attacking unit you had.  Any ones that I roll will eliminate one attacking unit.  That was a pretty cool, but not very reliable tech.

I played it for years and loved it.  I made many many maps, ordered countless extra units.  One of the custom units we had was a Chinook.  It carried one Infantry 5 spaces, it attacked at a 2 and defended at a 5, but that is using an 8 sided die.  I made it by cutting the props off of the choppers (special ordered with other pieces)… then I would cut a carrier in half and trim the edges down, then I would glue the chopper blades to the top sides of the destoyer piece and make a nice Chinook with it.

So many good memories with it, I have never played the revised, updated or any other expansion, but I am putting the 50th edition one on the Xmas list for sure!  Thanks for reading!

But I haven’t played it in years, and my stuff is in a storage place in New Jersey, so I don’t have access to all of my custom rules and new pieces.

I guess he was referring to some variant or house rule.
No Heavy Tank in OOB or LHTR. Just Super Heavy Tank. :wink:

Well in his defense i actually have 2 games (using d12 system) that have both a primary and secondary attack ( the primary is pre-emtive)

but the economy of scale is quite different from regular AA

El: Of course I´m serious. The US can build an IC in China in AA (although they probably won´t have China by the time it´s their turn), so the question seemed weird. Kinda like: Can the UK put its troops on US transporters? The answer to both questions is: Sure, go for it.

But then again, Bradford DID say it was a Pacific question……