Long live Kill America First!!!

If Germany gets E. USA/C. USA they’re getting an extra 32 IPC a round, pushing Russia out shouldn’t be overly difficult, even if they collect the NOs for Norway, Poland, Hungary, S. Germany and Romania for 3 rounds.

Let’s see if I can remember.  I think Japan had about 13 transports.  One of those had 1 inf and 1 AA gun.  It landed in BC on the NCM.  As for the other 12,  Half landed on British Columbia and half on Alaska.  Also, the very first transport, the one that went with the major fleet of warships, it had 1 inf + 1 tank and ended up taking Hawaii.
On J3, Japan did buy a couple of transports plus an extra bomber.  They used the transports to take Midway and Wake to get the 5 of 7 bonus.
UK Pacific and ANZAC started having some fun at Japan’s expense.  They declared war on either turn 2 or 3, UK took Siam and Hainan, ANZAC took Formosa.  I had to keep planes on Japan around to make sure UK and ANZAC warships didn’t get too close to my transports.

I understand your thinking on landing in N America on J3.  It was just our feeling that since US goes right after Japan, if they got their Major ICs then on G4, Germany simply wouldn’t be able to take either EUS or CUS.  Of course, this is also due to the absolutely miserable handling of France by Germany.  They really should have taken France G1 and had the huge money to buy more transports for a decent invasion force.  That and Japan’s decision to wait until J4, thus taking WUS on J5, led to the downfall of this plan.
Sometimes we switch around and play different countries so maybe this plan will work on a different US player.  Maybe after 2 or 3 more games, we might try it again.  Sometimes it can be a while between games and whomever plays the US then might have forgotten this trick.

They get their majors yes, but they can’t spend their full income before Germany goes again, they can only collect it.

America will have 3 to 4 rounds to build, but do they have the cash to build enough?  Film at eleven.

We always pull the round flags out of a cup, It’s not to often that one person plays one country time  after time. It does happen once in a while that you might pull the same one game after game but usually your opponents are different. With the ALPHA+2, I pulled Japan 4 times in a row. and one of the regulars has played U.K. alot
  9 out of 10 games we have 5 at the table

@TheDefinitiveS:

Try a Naval base in Iceland. A bit expensive to set up but you then have the option to keep going with Sealion or you can make it to EUS or somewhere in Canada.

You can reach at the same interesting territories (and more) from SZ 91 assuming you hold Gibraltar, so I don’t really think this has any merit.

knp7765 @
Interesting game report, but I don’t think we should evaluate this strategy based on a scenario where the invasion of France failed.

What about UK support to the US? Could that mess with the odds? I mean once the Germans land in C.US the UK should realize that they are off the hook. They could pump out quite a few units (tanks?) in Canada and send planes from the UK.

Should the Germans divert rosources to take out Quebec early to prevent this?

@ozimek1:

knp7765 @
Interesting game report, but I don’t think we should evaluate this strategy based on a scenario where the invasion of France failed.

What about UK support to the US? Could that mess with the odds? I mean once the Germans land in C.US the UK should realize that they are off the hook. They could pump out quite a few units (tanks?) in Canada and send planes from the UK.

Should the Germans divert rosources to take out Quebec early to prevent this?

I think taking Quebec before the USA would trigger a massive and quick defensive build by USA. Better to take them more by surprised if possible. The best would be if you had enough troops to survive the UK Canadian build, which should be plausible if the move is a surprise. Then London should be stocked with infantry (KAF will look like Sealion) and not much additional in Canada.

I’m working on a plan for KAF as well, which will involve taking Gilbrata early and then a joint German/Italian invasion fleet should be able to hit East USA. The question is whether UK/USA thinks Germany will move in force to Africa/Med or identify the threat to the US.

@ozimek1:

knp7765 @
Interesting game report, but I don’t think we should evaluate this strategy based on a scenario where the invasion of France failed.

What about UK support to the US? Could that mess with the odds? I mean once the Germans land in C.US the UK should realize that they are off the hook. They could pump out quite a few units (tanks?) in Canada and send planes from the UK.

Should the Germans divert rosources to take out Quebec early to prevent this?

Yeah, I agree about the France part.  This scenario would have obviously went a lot better if Germany, and then Italy, hadn’t failed in taking France round 1.  I hope to try this again sometime in the future when hopefully our USA player has perhaps forgotten.
About UK support;  they did try building a few units in Quebec and moved everything they had to British Columbia due to the massive Japanese buildup in the Pacific.  However, for the first 2 rounds, they were scared of Sealion so did all their building right on London.  When the German fleet went to SZ 91 turn 3, both the US and UK players realized Germany was trying something new.  UK did build a few more units in Quebec to help out the US, but even with the US in such trouble, UK was pretty busy trying to get destroyers in the water to get rid of the German subs which were convoy raiding UK like crazy.  Plus, they put a couple of tanks in South Africa to deal with the Italians from Central Africa.