11L '41 - Manstein (axis) v BoldFresh (Allies) Bid 6, +NOs, No Tech


  • Caucasus falls. 2 tanks holding

    Non Combat Movement
    fighter in caucasus lands in persia
    art (france) to Italy

    Mobilisation
    2 tanks, 4 inf in Italy


  • Italy collects 18+10=28, has 28

    AA41_Manstein_Boldfresh+6_05eIta.AAM

  • '12

    with 55 the USA buys 2 ftr, 2 des, 3 subs, save 1

    CM

    z64 (trn) - sub (z56)
    z50 (4 trn, 2 des, 4 acc, cru, 7 ftr, bat) - 2 acc, sub, 2 des, 4 ftr (z38) (boats come through both z49 and z48, allowing for retreat to both locations), 2 acc, des, 4 ftr (z46) boats come through z51, 2 bom (wus), bom (haw)
    phi (inf, art) - 3 inf, art (sol)

    combat:

    this is a big one!

    z50 - 4 acc, sub, 3 des, 8 ftr, 3 bom vs. 2 des, 4 acc, cru, 7 ftr, bat

    atk:
    sub
    DiceRolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)
    the rest of the attackers
    DiceRolls: 4@1 3@2 8@3 3@4; Total Hits: 84@1: (5, 3, 4, 5)3@2: (5, 5, 4)8@3: (3, 6, 2, 1, 4, 2, 1, 1)3@4: (1, 5, 4)

  • '12

    exactly on odds.  will await your casualty choice before continuing.


  • am i right in assuming that i can land the fighters in the philippines if all carriers are lost, but only if you fail to take it with the land forces. if the islands fall, the fighters can only land on carriers
    pls confirm

  • '12

    well, partially.  i can only attack philippines by land if i win the sea battle.  to win the sea battle and commence with the attack of the island, i would have to kill all your fighters.  so if you wanted to take maximum defense in the sea battle you would lose your carriers first.  if you lose all your carriers and i would happen to retreat from the sea battle, the loaded transports have to retreat with the rest of the attacking force.  your surviving fighters could then land on the philippines.


  • ok. that’s what i thought

    casualties
    1 hit on battleship, both destroyers, cruiser, all 4 carriers

  • '12

    OK, the high stakes battle continues with round 1 defense!!

    z50 rd 1 defense - 2 des, 4 acc, cru, 7 ftr, bat
    DiceRolls: 6@2 1@3 8@4; Total Hits: 96@2: (5, 6, 2, 4, 5, 6)1@3: (2)8@4: (1, 1, 2, 5, 3, 2, 2, 4)

  • '12

    dang, that was a killer defense.  i guess i should expect that by now…  :-D

    i will lose sub, 3 des, 2 acc, 3 ftr

    z50 round 2 - 2 acc, 5 ftr, 3 bom vs. 7 ftr, dBat

    atk:
    DiceRolls: 2@1 5@3 3@4; Total Hits: 52@1: (3, 2)5@3: (3, 1, 4, 1, 4)3@4: (2, 6, 3)

  • '12

    you will obviously 5 fighters

    round 2 defense
    DiceRolls: 8@4; Total Hits: 78@4: (6, 3, 2, 3, 2, 1, 4, 3)

  • '12

    son of a… !!!

    geez man!

  • '12

    ok i lose 2 acc, 5 ftr - so much for getting anywhere near the expected outcome in this battle…  :roll:

    round 4 - 3 bom vs. 2 ftr, bat
    atk:
    DiceRolls: 3@4; Total Hits: 13@4: (5, 2, 5)
    def:
    DiceRolls: 3@4; Total Hits: 23@4: (6, 2, 3)

  • '12

    this is just sick

    round 4 - bom vs. ftr, bat
    DiceRolls: 1@4; Total Hits: 01@4: (5)
    DiceRolls: 2@4; Total Hits: 22@4: (4, 1)

  • '12

    dude, that is like an upper 5% dicing… AGAIN!

    and my transports are completely toast as well…  :roll:


  • that is sick
    it will probably balance out when we have bloodbaths over moscow and berlin


  • the last couple of rounds were bad, i admit
    but my odds calcualtor suggests i was 40.4% to end up with 1fgt/1BB or better
    and that you were 46% to end up with nothing
    so i’m not sure taken as a whole that it was totally outrageous

  • '12

    AND you save 4 transports, let’s not forget to mention that.  critical mistake on my part to keep two aircraft carriers in the first round, expecting SOMEWHAT normal dice…  you may not have realized i had about 85% odds to sink your entire fleet there, so much that i felt comfortable saving two carriers after round 1, which still left me with cushion. needless to say that battle was a 150-200 IPC swing.  i should have came out with a considerable amount of material, as well as taking the philippines, even while saving a loaded carrier or two…  :| in addition i lose several transports while you save several transports, as well, as saving a battleship.  this coming on the heels of your miraculous taking of the caucusus.  it will seriously take a near miracle to recover from this incredible string of disasters…  :-o

    since i didn’t win the sea battle the transports have to retreat

    transports to z48

    NC

    z46 - 3 subs (z56)
    wus - AA (wca)

    place 2 ftr (wus)
    place 3 subs, 2 des (z56)

    collect 48, has 49

    China does nothing

    AA41_Manstein_Boldfresh+6_05fUSA.AAM

  • '12

    your odds calculator is wrong.  that battle was a 86% favorite for me to take out the entire fleet.  in addition, the median result (if i would have lost the carriers first) was for me to have 3 fighters and 3 bombers REMAINING after sinking the entire fleet.  you must have entered something wrong into your calculator, because i was even a 62% favorite if i would have lost my carriers LAST.  anyway, it happens, should make for a much more interesting game…. one which you will probably win…  :-)


  • GERMANY 6
    With 44, Germany buys: 8 inf, 4 tanks

    Combat Movement
    SBR Russia – bomber (ger)
    Kazakh (inf) – inf, art, fgt (Persia)
    Eastern Ukraine (mt) – tank (bul/rom)


  • Combat
    SBR
    AA gun in Russia fires (bomber takes circuitous route avoiding other AA guns, can land in caucasus if it lives)
    DiceRolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 11@1: (1)

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