So if the Alpha setup becomes standard…...

@strategic:

Bump

Again, the link posted above is valid and is the primary source of the Alpha 3 rules.

3.5 is just changes made to the original 3 setup. I was confused because I got cards from here saying that there was no italian destroyer and transport in 96 and I was just questioning if it had been removed. We have since marked those ships on our cards.

@urmomsmom7:

I think they are trying to say that since England doesn’t get an NO for no German subs on the board it doesn’t give Germany the need to build subs and in general building units towards England

That makes partial sense.  I still think you need submarines for Germany, but a lot less.  Before you needed 4 in SZ 109, 2 in SZ 106, 2 in SZ 82.  Now you need 2 in SZ 109, 1 in SZ 106 and 1 in SZ 82 to get almost the same results as before.

What the change does, however, is weaken England to the tune of 5 IPC a round.  There’s not a bat’s chance in hades that England and America are putting units in Paris until the game is already over (but the axis won’t concede).  Essentially, what Larry did, was to remove 10 IPC a round from the Allies give the Axis a significant boost in buying power in relation to the what the Allies used to get.

It also means that the Allies dont ahve to go beserk trying to kill every submarine on the board too.

Low Luck, IMHO has the following detriments:

1)  Infantry, Fighter, Tactical kills defending Infantry 100% of the time with only 33% chance of losing your guy.  Means you no longer need to use 2 infantry to be relatively assured of getting the territory
2)  Naval battles are INSANE to calculate!  Then again, they always are.
3)  Picket lines tend to have significantly more units than in ADS. (1 Infantry in ADS ~ 3 Infantry, or 3 Infnatry, Armor in LL games to stop a break through)

The warship and transport need only end their movement in the same sea zone.  They don’t have to move together.

@Meethos:

@Get:

I would also like to make a request to anyone that has a scanner: to scan the pages of the Europe rule book which contain the unit profiles & stats, i believe they’re located way in the back of the booklet.

upload them in .PNG format

Thank you!  :-D

Meethos if you’re reading this, hopefully you can help me out one last time  :-)

Do you mean the Game Piece Directory which shows the silhouettes of each nations units or the profiles that describes the rules for each unit? If its the later then they’re the exact same as the ones in the Pacific manual w/ the excpetion of the air base scramble rule saying that the UK isn’t an island. FYI the Game Piece Directory doesn’t contain any stats.

yeah the Game Piece Directory.  :-)

One step ahead of you.  More units for Germany, less for Russia, weaker US NO, and no more Anzac capturing the Carolines for the US, or UK/US threatening Berlin via seizing Denmark to open the straight.  Let me know if I missed anything major, I’m gonna go beat my head against the wall for a bit.

edit Russian Minor IC in Ukraine…interesting, and at least he removed the German initial Barbarossa territory grab N.O.  Overall though, seems to have strengthened the Axis slightly while weakening the Allies slightly.  I guess he went with what made the majority of players happy, can’t say I blame him.

The red I posted was Larry’s summary of others in the long pages of posts.  I actually do not agree with everything in red in my previous post, I just wanted to jump start the brainstorming.

At this point, I could keep the current rules with a small change of damage (3 +1d6).  
or just 2d6.

A lot is going on at the Larry Harris site and I wanted more participation by members of  this forum.
Many of us do not post at the other site very often.