Subs

Well, I am okay with DD’s cancelling all sub special rules. But I would love it if a DD is needed for every sub. Or every two subs.

@Heinrich:

Hi all.
I really don’t like the way subs are treated in this game, maybe the following suggestion.

1 enemy sub in a sea zone can’t be attacked. More subs can be attacked if 1 remains it can dive.
Only when it is on station (in an enemy convoi zone), than it can be attacked once a turn (bye each unit attacking it) and it can fight back once.
If you miss it has dived and cant be attacked till the next turn.

In this way you really create a battle of the atlantic and the creation of hunter groups (a destroyer and a carrier for example) in the center of the ocean. So the allies have to stop resources in the battle of the atlantic just like reality.

What are your opinions?

@McLovin1985:

I’ve never liked the subs rules, they’re nearly invincible if you think about it. Unless you’re a huge fan of destroyers, which I am not.

Other subs should be able to detect enemy subs (makes sense, both subs would have sonar) fighters/bombers should be able to get one chance of destroying enemy subs (with the idea the subs are surfaced until attacked, when missed they submerge), if they miss the defending subs should retreat to one zone away.

Granted their stats aren’t that great but the fact that only destroyers can detect them makes it difficult to deal with them.

Submarines are too puny with the OoB rules. Check out my special sub rules listed today under “house rules”. Give me some feedback.

Oh, I disagree. Submarines are beautiful if used right. They can really nail UK to a door.

@xzorn:

Oh, I disagree. Submarines are beautiful if used right. They can really nail UK to a door.

Subs only defend at one. On defense they are only good for taking hits to protect more expensive vessels. I can destroy a complete wolfpack with one destroyer and a half dozen planes. The rules need to reflect the true stealth nature of a submarine.

Suns are neat. I like to use one to lure out destroyers germany japan or england can not afford to replace.

@MarkVIIIMarc:

Suns are neat.

I think so too. Makes life so much easier.

:-D

@Tavenier:

@MarkVIIIMarc:

Suns are neat.

I think so too. Makes life so much easier.

:-D

Without ours we would be very chilly indeed!

i also like subs, but only on the offensive.they are a little bit like bombers as they can do a lot of damage when in a pack, but they are bad on defense. if used right they can really put a hurt on the enemy. i like using them when i play ANZAC to thin out jap navy

lol.

U see I have this great new cell phone I am doing half my typing on now days.  Big Thumbs + small touch screen = typos!