Fun History test

Hello. And Bye.

There was another topic in the 50th section where someone asked why Rommel was on the box and not Hitler.  This person pointed out that you saw faces like Churchill and Stalin (world leaders) not Montgomery or Eisenhower (country specific generals) for example.

The answer was that the game would not be legal to market in Germany with Hitler’s face.  I would imagine this would fall under the same school of thought.  Germany doesn’t deny that the war happened but they would like marginalize the bad PR that goes with it.

LT

Nature’s Metropolis: William Cronon
Sugar Creek: John Faragher

Both of those have quite a lot of primary sources in them.  Actual photocopies, and sometimes they are a bit hard to read since the handwritting back then is not what we are used to reading.

You may also feel free to read up on Kennecott Journey by William Cronon;  Iseminger’s “Culture and Environment in the Ameircas”; White’s “The Middle Ground” I’d focus on the first few chapters, but feel free to read the entire book if you want.

As for “Democracy in America” I just had a brain stumble and forgot the name of the author.  However, a brief search would have immediately gotten it for you, Alexis de Touqsville.  He’s kinda famous you know, and he very specifically states in numerous sections of his novel (which is a good read, but very long!) that women had universal sufferage even though they did not have the right to go vote if they were married.

In fact, my entire thesis on women being equal to men, in society if not genetically, is almost a carbon copy of his arguments.

After you finish all that, if you want more sources, let me know.  Just about anything written about history of the area (either Illinois itself or the United States) from non-biased sources before 1940 will reinforce my argument (and Mr. Toucquville’s.)

Gee, btw, all that took roughly 1 minute.  I’m surprised you couldn’t go find those sources yourself given the information I gave you (you know, the titles of the books and all.)

lol

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@Imperious:

I still contend that FDR wouldn’t have waited for Japan to fall without a German DOW.  He would have gotten the Congress to declare war on both Japan and Germany (as Japan’s most powerful ally) then stripped Japan of that ally before defeating them.  It would have been the only way to save BritAIn (better F_alk?) from a successful, future German invasion.  He must have known the predicament Britain was in at that time because he was shuffling “volunteers” and weapons over as fast as he could to help them before the attack on Pearl.  Furthermore, we basically ignored the Japanese until Europe fell even after Pearl - the only excuse for this would be to save the Brits.

Could Germany have defeated Russia?  Yes, if the Brits and French had kept attempting appeasement instead of war, I think Germany could have successfully conquered the Russians, then turned on the French.

Yes i believe that can be argued as well with plausibility. After all this is speculative History!
OK i have two questions:

how much time would you expect a DOW from America to be made against Germany. What do you suppose Germany would be doing during the time before the DOW.

1)  I expect the DOW would be sent within that same year at least, probably before the second fiscal quarter.  Time was of the essense and FDR knew it.

2)  I really don’t have a clue.  If it were me I’d be setting up an invasion of England - but obviously Hitler wasn’t interested in doing that, he wanted them to surrender due to air assaults.  Being as that was the situation, I presume he’d continue is rocket attacks and bomber attacks while utilizing the majority of his ground pounders in Russia.

@Yanny:

The Spanish thoroughly wiped out the entire native Med. Sea population, along with most of Mexico’s.

Then why do they still speak Greek, Arabic, Farsi, Italian and Spanish instead of todos hablan Espanol!?! :P

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

Being anonymous and all, I would like to recommend two/three most excellent books:

-The rise and the fall of the Thrid Reich, by William L. Shirer. This book is fantastic! All you wanted to know of the German stirde to power and their downfall is in here. Has won alot of awards. Should last you 6 months.

-The second world war [a very innovative title] by martin Gilbert. This book has a more general overview and is more focused on the how the civilians and soldiers had it during the war.

-Rommel as military commander, by Roanld Lewis. This book has the biography of herr Rommel and all the tactics he used. The book I have is rather old (1968), but it is probably out there somewhere.

Enjoy,

Vinnie