• Isn’t the army transitioning away from SAWs?

  • 2007 AAR League

    @cyan:

    no i just always thought they(the military) would just take your gun and send you home not keep it.

    Maybe the photo was taken in Iraq?

  • '19 Moderator

    LOL… Yeah, that was taken on the steps to my room last year.  Home sweet home 1/2 a mile from Saddam Hussein Baghdad International Airport.

    And Yanny, Not as far as I know.

    Prior to the SAW, two of the members of an Infantry squad kept their M16 on full auto, these guys would use their weapons for suppressive fire, keep the bad guys heads down, so the other guys can maneuver into fighting positions or get cover. The primary problem with this, as CC can attest, is that it takes about 3 seconds to empty a magazine in an M16 on full auto.  So your changing mags like crazy, not maintaining fire, and running out of ammo because the standard carry is about 750 rnds  Also it’s hard to maintain accuracy with an M16 on Full auto.  Guys typicaly end up “Spraying and Praying”.

    When the SAW came out this replaced the “Designated Gunner’s” weapon and the M16 was changed to a 3 round burst.  The SAW weighs more and is easier to control.  I’m not positive what the standard Infantry carry is but I would guess it’s about 1000 rnds - 5 belts.  I never carried more than three.


  • I know this is old news, but it’s interesting to see what people look like beyond their avatars and posting content.  It looks like a lot of fun.

    I’m just surprised that I could essentially identify every weapon there, and I kinda abhor guns (for what they do, but yes, they also wow me).

    Have any WW2 weaponry, Dezrt?


  • @Jermofoot:

    I’m just surprised that I could essentially identify every weapon there, and I kinda abhor guns (for what they do, but yes, they also wow me).

    i know the names of like 5 guns ak-47, berta, uzi and now the saw. pretty sad.

  • 2007 AAR League

    P90 = Coolest gun ever

  • 2007 AAR League

    @cyan:

    i know the names of like 5 guns ak-47, berta, uzi and now the saw. pretty sad.

    What’s even sadder is your math skillz - that’s 4 guns, dude  :-D  :lol:


  • @froodster:

    @cyan:

    i know the names of like 5 guns ak-47, berta, uzi and now the saw. pretty sad.

    What’s even sadder is your math skillz - that’s 4 guns, dude  :-D  :lol:

    5 sounds better  8-)


  • what’s a berta?

  • 2007 AAR League

    I wondered too, but looking at it now my guess is “beretta”


  • that’s what i assumed as well, i was just poking fun at our local linguistic expert  8-)

  • '19 Moderator

    @Jermofoot:

    I know this is old news, but it’s interesting to see what people look like beyond their avatars and posting content.  It looks like a lot of fun.

    I’m just surprised that I could essentially identify every weapon there, and I kinda abhor guns (for what they do, but yes, they also wow me).

    Have any WW2 weaponry, Dezrt?

    Yeah, I’ve got an M1 Garand, A Kar98 (1941) and a Carcano (1942).  I used to have a P38, but it was stole years ago.  I am not actively looking, but I would like to eventualy pick up a decient Mosin Nagant and an enfield to make a good european theater set, I supose I could pick up and arisaka and have the axis and allies grand slam…


  • you should get a MG42 they have a demo of it firing on you tube.


  • @dezrtfish:

    Yeah, I’ve got an M1 Garand, A Kar98 (1941) and a Carcano (1942).  I used to have a P38, but it was stole years ago.  I am not actively looking, but I would like to eventualy pick up a decient Mosin Nagant and an enfield to make a good european theater set, I supose I could pick up and arisaka and have the axis and allies grand slam…

    Awesome.  Which do you like the best?  And is the Carcano the Italian rifle?
    I’d be looking for a BAR or a Thompson, myself, but I like your idea of the rifle collection (probably be easy to keep up  with as well).

  • '19 Moderator

    I’ve fired an MG-42 is awesome, the most fun full-auto I’ve fired and I’ve fired a few.  It burns though belts.

    The Carcano is the Italian rifle.  It’s in great shape, “Only dropped Once”. :)

    Auto’s are a pain to own because of the paper work and licencing fees.  I would love to have a BAR other wise, that’s one of the WWII weapons I haven’t fired.

    I have Fired  the MG-42, MG-34, MP40, Sterling(I actualy fired this one in Iraq, we had a captured one that we took to the range), Thompson and the PPsh, Russian Submachine gun.  That’s the list of WWII all though I guess the Browning M2 counts even though we still use it.


  • @dezrtfish:

    I have Fired  the MG-42, MG-34, MP40, Sterling(I actualy fired this one in Iraq, we had a captured one that we took to the range), Thompson and the PPsh, Russian Submachine gun.  That’s the list of WWII all though I guess the Browning M2 counts even though we still use it.

    I’m not familiar with the Sterling…do you mean the Sten?

    And which PPsh was it?

  • '19 Moderator

    The sterling replaced the STEN, I don’t know much about it, I had assumed it was WWII era, but I guess they didn’t start fielding them until the 50s.  It’s simmilar to a STEN, stripped down to only the essential parts.

    I’m pretty sure the PPSh was a 41.


  • @dezrtfish:

    The sterling replaced the STEN, I don’t know much about it, I had assumed it was WWII era, but I guess they didn’t start fielding them until the 50s.  It’s simmilar to a STEN, stripped down to only the essential parts.

    Well, that’s amazing because I thought the Sten was about as barebones as you could go: cheap, easy to produce, fairly reliable as well.

    I’m pretty sure the PPSh was a 41.

    That would be 32 or 71(72?) rounds of goodness?

  • '19 Moderator

    It was the stick, the drums are pretty rare from what I understand.

  • 2007 AAR League

    is the k98 the mauser '98 used by germany as standard issue?  what’s the gun used by germnay, their assualt rifle that the russians copied. i forgot its name.  sturmgievvere or something?

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