• Their isnt much the CP can do to stop Fance and Uk to become economic beasts. Try and survive with the African troops as long as possible. Build a sub with AH and Ger every turn so no transport can go undefended and pick up easy ipcs. And it makes the allies invest in their navy.

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    Heh, it just occurs to me that it would be an absolute riot if Sea Lion turns out to work better in 1914 than any of the actual WWII games.


  • I play this naval Setup:

    British:
    SZ 2:  1 cruiser, 1 transport
    SZ 9:  3 battleships, 4 cruisers, 2 transports
    SZ 14:  1 cruiser
    SZ 19:  1 cruiser, 1 transport
    SZ 29:  1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 transport

    Germans:
    SZ 5:  2 subs
    SZ 7:  2 subs
    SZ 22:  1 cruiser
    SZ 10:  2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 1 sub
    SZ 11: 1 cruiser, 1 transport

    French:
    SZ 15:  1 cruiser, 1 transport
    SZ 16:  1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 transport

    Russians:
    SZ 12:  1 battleship
    SZ 21:  1 cruiser

    Ottomans:
    SZ 20:  1 cruiser

    Austrians, Italians, and Americans are the same as OOB.


  • Texas is on drugs
    Plain and simple, there is no other explaination to his delusional thinking of the CP always winning and the CP taking Britian and the CP holding its own against the Allied navy.
    Either that or he only plays vs his dog sparky.

    :roll:


  • @Uncrustable:

    Texas is on drugs
    Plain and simple, there is no other explaination to his delusional thinking of the CP always winning and the CP taking Britian and the CP holding its own against the Allied navy.
    Either that or he only plays vs his dog sparky.

    :roll:

    Have you attempted any strats involving the CP navy?  Have looked any strats at assaulting Britains.  You have never shared any of your personal experiences, just criticized my ideas.


  • Germany builds transports and a supporting navy. Great Britian builds a few inf in London and naval build. France doesn’t feel threatened and Russia is relaxing.

    Sea Lion wasn’t even considered possible in ww1. The Germans figured if they got Paris the war was over literally. I don’t see it being a viable strategy. Though late game I could see it happening instead of going for Paris. It’d shock the allies I Bet


  • @italiansarecoming:

    Germany builds transports and a supporting navy. Great Britian builds a few inf in London and naval build. France doesn’t feel threatened and Russia is relaxing.

    Sea Lion wasn’t even considered possible in ww1. The Germans figured if they got Paris the war was over literally. I don’t see it being a viable strategy. Though late game I could see it happening instead of going for Paris. It’d shock the allies I Bet

    Except that the Ottomans are not threatened at all and can put pressure on the Russians.  I’m not saying it would work, but where’s the harm in trying it.  Not sure how what was thought to be possible in the actual war is remotely relavent here.


  • Amphib assault is more difficult in 1914 than other A&A due to A) mines, B) unlimited production in capital and C) the fact that there is no SBR in 1914. You cannot reduce production using bombers on the turns leading up to your assault

    If Germany attacks Britian in force and the Autobots attack russia, what does Austria do?
    If Austria does not go all west, then the entire western front is screwed vs Italy and France
    If Austria does not help the Turks significantly they will be overwhelmed by Russia


  • @Uncrustable:

    Amphib assault is more difficult in 1914 than other A&A due to A) mines, B) unlimited production in capital and C) the fact that there is no SBR in 1914. You cannot reduce production using bombers on the turns leading up to your assault

    If Germany attacks Britian in force and the Autobots attack russia, what does Austria do?
    If Austria does not go all west, then the entire western front is screwed vs Italy and France
    If Austria does not help the Turks significantly they will be overwhelmed by Russia

    Is this based on actual gameplay or what you think will happen.  A) move the transports to SZ 9 empty, B) you don’t have to AA London, Yorkshire and Scotland are other options (this isn’t unique to the UK though, so not really a valid argument. C) not seeing the relevance here, you can’t SBR Paris either before attacking it.

    I don’t have any answers to your remaining questions, I haven’t tried it yet.


  • SBR is critical to a success full seal lion on G2 in global 40

    Your not so worried about SBRing capitals before land assaults because your not wasting money (tons of it) on transports and their escorts

    If you buy a bunch if navy and all you can take are some low IPC tt surrounding Britian, then fail lol
    It’s pretty much take London or gg once you blow that much money on transports and a fleet big enough to protect them


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    I honestly don’t see a viable early sealion


  • I dont see a sealion period. If you have the luxury of trying it later in the game then you probably already have Paris and then ou should also have Rome or Moscow!


  • @Uncrustable:

    SBR is critical to a success full seal lion on G2 in global 40

    Your not so worried about SBRing capitals before land assaults because your not wasting money (tons of it) on transports and their escorts

    If you buy a bunch if navy and all you can take are some low IPC tt surrounding Britian, then fail lol
    It’s pretty much take London or gg once you blow that much money on transports and a fleet big enough to protect them

    I never said to not take London, just that you can assault it from Yorkshire.  Also, where is the harm in trying it?  These aren’t real people you are killing off, if it doesn’t work then who cares.  I have no idea why some of you guys are so quick to just shoot down ideas without even trying it.


  • The Idea is to win the game. You can’t win a game with early sea lion. Also in G40 an early sealion which was in Germany’s favour did not mean a win against the Allies


  • @italiansarecoming:

    The Idea is to win the game. You can’t win a game with early sea lion. Also in G40 an early sealion which was in Germany’s favour did not mean a win against the Allies

    What were your results when you attempted?  What did do you specifically?


  • One of the problems Germany faces is that the UK starts with 15 inf and canons in England. To counter that Ger needs at least 8 transport ships.
    I think Sealion is impossible, but building a few transports will constantly threaten the UK to keep enough troops in England. Plus they can help to conquer russian territory and help transport german troops from the eastern front to Kiel (which is closer to the western front than they get by foot) in one turn. I would keep the number of transports limited to 3 or so.


  • You don’t have to AA directly, Yorkshire and Scotland are options as well and then march them south.  You also don’t have to transport your entire invasion force in one turn.  You can land in Scotland without even worrying about mines.  Killing France fast is also impossible, but it doesn’t stop people from trying that.


  • @Texas:

    You don’t have to AA directly, Yorkshire and Scotland are options as well and then march them south.  You also don’t have to transport your entire invasion force in one turn.  You can land in Scotland without even worrying about mines.  Killing France fast is also impossible, but it doesn’t stop people from trying that.

    yes I’ve also thought of that. the bitching part is you need a second wave of transports to send in reinforcements. I think this may harress the british seriously (certainly of you take in Ireland), but taking London will be a bridge too far i’m afraid. But i’ll certainly give it a try. How many transports do you have in mind?


  • To be honest, I haven’t had the chance to plan it out that far, still working out the details of keeping the sea lanes clear.


  • I did once. You can land in Karelia G2 then land in Scotland G3. for that you need to buy 1 transport G1 and a BB and Sub. G2 you land in Karelia with transports and you attack the russian BB in G2 with a German BB and sub/cruiser. In G3 you can take some units from karelia and land in scotland. I would go for 2 or 4 transports. making a ‘chain’ of 2 transports bringing in reinforcements while the other 2 land units.

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