@El:
F_alk, don’t do that! You remind me of a Communications professor …
That’s what I said!
big grin
well, i just took the freedom to restate what you said with my and not your personal bias :)
California Governor
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Why do you say that? Have you guaged California’s preformance under Democratic governer Gray Davis? :o
Yes… lets raise property taxes (already the highest in the nation), give illegals drivers license, raise taxes, and make a mockery of the state in that Power Crisis debacle… good one… :-? I’m sure you would love living here…
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im a lefty
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Funny how Democrats are able to fool people like that. Pay attention to politics in California. Democrats get more big buisness campaign bribes than Rebpuclians… :o
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well anything is better then the reps.
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I think both sides have their share of defects. that’s why choosing between them almost always ends up being a choice of the lesser of two evils. I like the American Independent Party. they reflect more of my views. It stinks that getting a third party member has proved pretty much impossible. As for the illegals with driver’s licenses, he didn’t pass that, which may the latinos mad. i’m latina and i wasn’t offended in anyway. giving people who are here illegally some of the same rights as citizens is tantamount to shooting yourself in the foot.
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well anything is better then the reps.
That was pretty weak… would you like Gray Davis is your governor? :o
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if anyone wants Davis (i have a nickname for him but it might offend people) for governor they need to be sent to a shrink. that’s my opinion and it’s not gonna change, no matter how many people take offense.
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@TG:
well anything is better then the reps.
That was pretty weak… would you like Gray Davis is your governor? :o
im in canada, I dont care how he treats you I care how he treats Canada
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Lets talk about washington.
2nd highest unemployment.
NO charther schools
Massive budget defeciet.
LOw voter confidence in officials (rejected R-51 and supported I-776 in order to give the legislators/governor the finger)
And yet incumbents were almost always elected.
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heh… how expected…
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its a nation wide trend
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wel herel in BC its all cuts
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Heard today…
CA has a 35 billion $ deficit.
Davis plans on RAISING TAXES on cigarettes(POOR).
" " " " " " business(guess who’ll pay it).
" " " " " " a lot of other stuff (ANY HONEST CAian, please, feel free to add more taxes and cuts.)Davis plans on CUTTING hospice care(POOR AND ELDERLY).
Davis plans on CUTTING 2000 CA GOV’T. jobs(YEAH! One thing right).Let’s see…
According to 2001 economic data CA is the 7th largest economy in the world if separated from the US #s. If Gov. Davis can drag the economy enough then maybe the Democrats can win in 2004. Then Davis has a job in the Lieberman Administration as the Secretary of the Treasury.…could be why the Democrats and Liberals in CA are not objecting…
You heard it here.
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Well, Xi (Thats who the guest was), I wouldn’t accuse either party of playing the political business game any more than the other. Its just an ugly, inherent, part of American politics. For example, Dick Cheney would meet with American businessmen to talk about business, in the White House, in secret. When Congress asked what went on in one meeting with Enron executives, ole Dickey refused to answer. Can I find additional sources of Democrats doing the same thing? Of course. Its one of the reason we need people like Senator John Mccain, Jesse Ventura, and the late Paul Wellstone out there, good honest public servants.
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Let’s see…
According to 2001 economic data CA is the 7th largest economy in the world if separated from the US #s. If Gov. Davis can drag the economy enough then maybe the Democrats can win in 2004. Then Davis has a job in the Lieberman Administration as the Secretary of the Treasury.Errrr…. that’s 4th Largest Economy, Xi… :-?
Davis plans on RAISING TAXES on cigarettes(POOR).
" " " " " " business(guess who’ll pay it).
" " " " " " a lot of other stuff (ANY HONEST CAian, please, feel free to add more taxes and cuts.)He doesn’t plan on raising taxes, he instead wants to raise FEES.
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@TG:
Because he ran a 78 million dollar campaign while the Republicans were stupid enough to choose Bill Simon (with no money) instead of Ricahrad Riordan… How else? :-?
Just some of my usual provocation:
How can you call yourselves defenders of democracy when your winners of elections are not winners because of their program etc., but of how much money they have spent? That’s a “pecuniacracy” then….
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How can you call yourselves defenders of democracy when your winners of elections are not winners because of their program etc., but of how much money they have spent?
Still a close raceeven though Simon didn’t win. It no way was Davis given a mandate. But even then, Davis was the incumbent and had name recognition, while Simon had several skeletons of how he ran his previous buisness. Had the Republicans chosen someone better (like Riordan), even with a smaller war chest, they would have won. Isn’t that sort of the same in Germany or any capitalist country? More money = more votes?
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Simple enough F_alk, our election process is fatally flawed. Some people (Like Senator Mccain, and the late Senator Paul Wellstone) are trying to change this. Problem is, the majority of our politicians out there are products of the money-laden system.
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Falk, plutocracy, not pecuniacracy.
Davis blew a lot of money to knock Riordian behind Simon, because Davis knew he couldn’t win against Riordian.
Seven out of the 11 richest senators are Democrats, including the top three richest. Democrat Senators are more likely to have married rather than earned their money, versus republican senators. THe average donation to the republican party is $50.
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YB, then explain to me why the main opposition to the Camp. Finance reform bill was Republican? The only republicans who initially supported it were John Mccain and his close following.
Look at it this way. Republicans get their funding from the Oil lobby. Democrats get their funding from Unions.
Also, keep in mind, almost every single Senator, to the man(woman…) is a Millionaire.
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