• I have to admit, I have no idea. I just joined this yesterday because I heard about it from a friend. About how many have there been?


  • What 4 to 0 odds?


  • i don’t know TG. I try and make fun of a lot of other states - southern ones, mostly. I’ll work harder . . . .


  • im glad the reps. didnt win


  • Why do you say that? Have you guaged California’s preformance under Democratic governer Gray Davis? :o

    Yes… lets raise property taxes (already the highest in the nation), give illegals drivers license, raise taxes, and make a mockery of the state in that Power Crisis debacle… good one… :-? I’m sure you would love living here…


  • im a lefty


  • Funny how Democrats are able to fool people like that. Pay attention to politics in California. Democrats get more big buisness campaign bribes than Rebpuclians… :o


  • well anything is better then the reps.


  • I think both sides have their share of defects. that’s why choosing between them almost always ends up being a choice of the lesser of two evils. I like the American Independent Party. they reflect more of my views. It stinks that getting a third party member has proved pretty much impossible. As for the illegals with driver’s licenses, he didn’t pass that, which may the latinos mad. i’m latina and i wasn’t offended in anyway. giving people who are here illegally some of the same rights as citizens is tantamount to shooting yourself in the foot.


  • well anything is better then the reps.

    That was pretty weak… would you like Gray Davis is your governor? :o


  • if anyone wants Davis (i have a nickname for him but it might offend people) for governor they need to be sent to a shrink. that’s my opinion and it’s not gonna change, no matter how many people take offense.


  • @TG:

    well anything is better then the reps.

    That was pretty weak… would you like Gray Davis is your governor? :o

    im in canada, I dont care how he treats you I care how he treats Canada


  • Lets talk about washington.

    2nd highest unemployment.

    NO charther schools

    Massive budget defeciet.

    LOw voter confidence in officials (rejected R-51 and supported I-776 in order to give the legislators/governor the finger)

    And yet incumbents were almost always elected.


  • heh… how expected…


  • its a nation wide trend


  • wel herel in BC its all cuts


  • Heard today…

    CA has a 35 billion $ deficit.

    Davis plans on RAISING TAXES on cigarettes(POOR).
    " " " " " " business(guess who’ll pay it).
    " " " " " " a lot of other stuff (ANY HONEST CAian, please, feel free to add more taxes and cuts.)

    Davis plans on CUTTING hospice care(POOR AND ELDERLY).
    Davis plans on CUTTING 2000 CA GOV’T. jobs(YEAH! One thing right).

    Let’s see…
    According to 2001 economic data CA is the 7th largest economy in the world if separated from the US #s. If Gov. Davis can drag the economy enough then maybe the Democrats can win in 2004. Then Davis has a job in the Lieberman Administration as the Secretary of the Treasury.

    …could be why the Democrats and Liberals in CA are not objecting…

    You heard it here.


  • Well, Xi (Thats who the guest was), I wouldn’t accuse either party of playing the political business game any more than the other. Its just an ugly, inherent, part of American politics. For example, Dick Cheney would meet with American businessmen to talk about business, in the White House, in secret. When Congress asked what went on in one meeting with Enron executives, ole Dickey refused to answer. Can I find additional sources of Democrats doing the same thing? Of course. Its one of the reason we need people like Senator John Mccain, Jesse Ventura, and the late Paul Wellstone out there, good honest public servants.


  • Let’s see…
    According to 2001 economic data CA is the 7th largest economy in the world if separated from the US #s. If Gov. Davis can drag the economy enough then maybe the Democrats can win in 2004. Then Davis has a job in the Lieberman Administration as the Secretary of the Treasury.

    Errrr…. that’s 4th Largest Economy, Xi… :-?

    Davis plans on RAISING TAXES on cigarettes(POOR).
    " " " " " " business(guess who’ll pay it).
    " " " " " " a lot of other stuff (ANY HONEST CAian, please, feel free to add more taxes and cuts.)

    He doesn’t plan on raising taxes, he instead wants to raise FEES.


  • @TG:

    Because he ran a 78 million dollar campaign while the Republicans were stupid enough to choose Bill Simon (with no money) instead of Ricahrad Riordan… How else? :-?

    Just some of my usual provocation:

    How can you call yourselves defenders of democracy when your winners of elections are not winners because of their program etc., but of how much money they have spent? That’s a “pecuniacracy” then….

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