Russian Strategy in 1940 Global

  • '10

    Hello Ghost One,
    I’ve read with interest your post, submited for an article.
    My opinion is that you would need to play a bit more against good allies players before you finish that article.
    Some of your advices are marginal at best (a russian bmb ? I see some very good players buying it sometimes, but there’s no way this could be considered a standard purchase)
    Also, some of your strategical concepts just don’t work. Example : “The point of these purchases and moves is to build a defense in Leningrad and build an attack force in Stalingrad/Ukraine”
    Against proper German play, you just won’t be able to defend Leningrad at all, and if you buy too much offensive units in Russia, then you won’t have enough defensive power when needed.

    That said, your article is not bad, but i think it needs some more refining.
    My best advice to you : if you have time, play a few games online, here at aa.org, against some confirmed players (basically, about any player with more than 1000 posts). This might give you a better view of adequate russian play.

    Thanks for the time you have put into this article anyway.

    Cheers.


  • Thanks for your thoughts :-D
    I wrote this in about a day or two and knew i would need to go back at it but haven’t had the time. i agree this doesn’t work well against very good German players, in my experiences no matter what i try when i play against a very good German player i always end up needing to turtle.
    I agree with everything you said , i will say that the bomber does a very good job of destroying captured Russian industry. my whole purpose for the article is to find a good offensive Russian strategy.


  • Nice article, Ghost One.

    One thing, the bear trap, i don’t think that will work against a hardened german player (in general i never assume an enemy will fall for a trap unless maybe it is well hidden)

    @Axisplaya:

    Some of your advices are marginal at best (a russian bmb ? I see some very good players buying it sometimes, but there’s no way this could be considered a standard purchase)

    I wouldn’t call a russian bomber marginal if you see the potential it gives. I always buy one (if Germany waits long maybe 2), and they never disappoint me. As Russia is a huge country, it is a very useful long distance punch (combined with some inf), in any direction (it can even attack Yunnan from Moscow and land in India), and if the time comes for Moscow to fall it can evacuate to Africa and still be a mean little threat here and there.

    Certainly worth it for an aggressive Russian player, probably not for a defensive stacker…


  • thank you i agree the trap is never for good german players

    i think the same thing for the bomber.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    Want good Russian advice?

    Go right back to classic.  Build all infantry and an artillery or two each turn.  Line up to capture Persia/Iraq with 1 art 1 mec 1 arm 1 or 2 inf, and support Egypt - as soon as you are attacked.

    MAXIMIZE on your ability to produce units, simply by putting as many as you can down on the board early.  When the going gets tougher later, or you face Strategic Bombing… then start building more expensive units like tanks.

    Surrender Leningrad/the north sooner rather then later, for a stronger defense of the south/moscow.  Retreat Soviet Far East units home, unless Japan gets stupid.

    If you are CONVINCED you must build air, ONLY build fighters (best defense) unless there are extreme circumstances/goals.

    Fight the germans back, when and whereever applicable, but don’t expose your stack(s) unless the possibility of german success is very low or hopeless.

    spread out your navy in the baltic to cause as many problems as possible, and use your free sub to convoy raid.

    ALWAYS ask your opponent to let you out of the batlic, each game, before you are at war (It’s in the rules).


  • @Gargantua:

    ALWAYS ask your opponent to let you out of the batlic, each game, before you are at war (It’s in the rules).

    i always do that, though not even 1 time did the German agree, tsss.

    Should i offer them money? ;)


  • @special:

    @Gargantua:

    ALWAYS ask your opponent to let you out of the batlic, each game, before you are at war (It’s in the rules).

    i always do that, though not even 1 time did the German agree, tsss.

    Should i offer them money? ;)

    “Money is the sincerest of all flattery. Women love to be flattered. So do men.” - Lazarus Long


  • It’s tricky: as Russia you have to double the amount you would offer the Germans for your fleet to pass (x IPC less for Russia to build + x IPC more for germany), not so sure it’s a good deal if they agreed…

    Still, i might try it next time i play (they’ll decline anyway)

  • '17 '16 '13 '12

    @Gargantua:

    Want good Russian advice?

    **Go right back to classic.**  Build all infantry and an artillery or two each turn.  Line up to capture Persia/Iraq with 1 art 1 mec 1 arm 1 or 2 inf, and support Egypt - as soon as you are attacked.

    MAXIMIZE on your ability to produce units, simply by putting as many as you can down on the board early.  When the going gets tougher later, or you face Strategic Bombing… then start building more expensive units like tanks.

    Surrender Leningrad/the north sooner rather then later, for a stronger defense of the south/moscow.  Retreat Soviet Far East units home, unless Japan gets stupid.

    If you are CONVINCED you must build air, ONLY build fighters (best defense) unless there are extreme circumstances/goals.

    Fight the germans back, when and whereever applicable, but don’t expose your stack(s) unless the possibility of german success is very low or hopeless.

    spread out your navy in the baltic to cause as many problems as possible, and use your free sub to convoy raid.

    ALWAYS ask your opponent to let you out of the batlic, each game, before you are at war (It’s in the rules).

    I go heavier on artillery buys earlier on and then move back to infantry (can cause the German player to be more aggresive)


  • I’m with Gargantua.
    Buy mostly Infantry, with an Artillery here and there.
    Take Iraq as soon as possible with a goal of getting a tank down to Ethiopia/Somalia
    Take Finland/Norway if the opportunity presents itself; it is worth 11 IPC’s to you and takes away 10 ipcs/turn from the Germans.  By no means is this as must do as Iraq, but from time to time it is good.

    Germany will either go heavy north or south (if he splits up than he is likely inexperienced and you should crush each army seperately).  Retreat from his heavy push and counter as much as possible in the other.

    i.e. If Germany goes heavy towards Leningrad, abandon Leningrad the turn before you likely lose it, and slowly move your forces east towards Moscow- don’t give the germans an easy way to kill your russian stack!  In the South, hold your ground (and hold onto Ukraine) as best you can without committing more than a couple Inf there/turn (along with your aircraft).

    Starting to think the Eastern Front troops are best kept in the East Front- with perhapd 6-8 staying in Siberia and the rest going around mongolia to China.  They rarely get to Moscow in time to help anyway, might as well try to protect your eastern lands.

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