@gamerman01 said in Classic 2nd edition discussion:
I’ll just say that I strongly believe bids have nothing to do with ELO unless one side is handicapping on purpose.
I don’t quite grasp this. It might not have a major impact but it surely has an effect on the ratings. ELO ratings are to compare raw skill in a game. To achieve that the environment in all games must be the same. If you look at games like chess or soccer, all games are equal. I don’t get 5 extra queens when playing against Magnus Carlsen. If I did, imagine the game would be fair, and we would both win 50% of the time. My rating would go up a lot and his rating would go down, because my victories against someone with a higher rating count more than my losses.
If there was no bid, no extra queens, I would always lose. My rating would go down just slightly and his rating will stay mostly the same. Now, both of our ELOs are representative for our skill.
What I am saying is, when the bids are different you are comparing apples with pears. For Classic this might be not much of a problem as the bids will be very close to each other, but for example in Global bids can range from 0-70, that can really change the game.
Also, no worries about disagreeing. I like a good discussion. I want to be proven wrong.