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??????????? (Axis) vs EM (Allies)- G40- Alpha+2- No Tech
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Whoa…hold on chief…this move on UK2 makes no sense according to my maps
SZ110 (German Fleet)
1DD sz92SZ112 (1SS, 8TP)
1tac Gib will land on CV from sz92 after SZ110 is cleared.1. Why did you send a lone DD into a German fleet??
2. The tac from Gibraltar can’t make the flight to pillage the 8TTs. By rules you can’t do “risky missions”-also you didn’t even attempt the redevous for the tac so you shouldn’t get the credit for the kill of 8TTs.
Outside the box strategy, and perfectly legal. I only have to show that a landing is “Possible” however unlikely. Had the DD killed the German fleet in SZ110, the CV would have moved in to pick it up. But alas the poor DD wasn’t up to the task, so the pilot drown when he ran out of gas. With no plane to pick up, the CV was free to move elswhere.
This rule\tactic has been discussed many, many, many times and deemed legal.
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Wow…very sneaky indeed.
This this pass through Kreighund???
Even if it did I’m definitely going to ask him to clarify this better in the FAQs. Very ambiguous to me, though I guess it seems legal. The term “risky mission” must be clarified better especailly in this kind of situation.
What a sucker punch. :lol:
Bending the rules- that’s called a “bend not break the rules” strategy- nice cheapshot. :-)
Well, if this passed through Kreighund, then I’m going to ask that we start over- if I would have had a clearer understanding of that rule (or if the stupid rulebook was better written- gosh there’s always loopholes in these rules sometimes). I wouldn’t have left 8TT hanging like that- in fact, I remember counting the tac’s moves including a carrier pickup!!!- wow, that’s below the belt man- very dirty- I like it!!! I’m ticked but I’m laughing at the same time. :lol: :x :lol: Nice one!!!
Or…if you want we can rewind and do the turn 2 over. That move just burned $56- too much of a waste of time for me to continue.
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Just read the Europe rulebook- it is clear there so I stand corrected. If I would have known that I would have built them in z113 or something- I think you also caught me with no aircraft to scramble there either- nice move indeed. So can I have a mulligan or should we start over???
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Wow…very sneaky indeed.
This this pass through Kreighund???
Even if it did I’m definitely going to ask him to clarify this better in the FAQs. Very ambiguous to me, though I guess it seems legal. The term “risky mission” must be clarified better especailly in this kind of situation.
What a sucker punch. :lol:
Bending the rules- that’s called a “bend not break the rules” strategy- nice cheapshot. :-)
Well, if this passed through Kreighund, then I’m going to ask that we start over- if I would have had a clearer understanding of that rule (or if the stupid rulebook was better written- gosh there’s always loopholes in these rules sometimes). I wouldn’t have left 8TT hanging like that- in fact, I remember counting the tac’s moves including a carrier pickup!!!- wow, that’s below the belt man- very dirty- I like it!!! I’m ticked but I’m laughing at the same time. :lol: :x :lol: Nice one!!!
Or…if you want we can rewind and do the turn 2 over. That move just burned $56- too much of a waste of time for me to continue.
definitely clear it with Krieg, for your own peice of mind. The term “risky mission” must be your own invention, it shows up no where i’ve seen.
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Just read the Europe rulebook- it is clear there so I stand corrected. If I would have known that I would have built them in z113 or something- I think you also caught me with no aircraft to scramble there either- nice move indeed. So can I have a mulligan or should we start over???
Your game is far from lost, but if you want to conceed and start a new game, i’m ok with that. If you want a mulligan, go play golf. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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not “risky mission” but “suicide run” the rulebook calls it- same diffy.
I could have just simply left a couple of aircraft in WGermany too- ouch!
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Oh no the game is lost- you can’t recover from burning that much cash as Axis. There’s little grace for Axis mistakes in this game. Yeah, this game is trash. Start over…I’ll have to mind my Ps and Qs with movement and such.
Any other sucker punch tactics I should be aware of??? Ones that are not too directly stated in the rules???
Giving up England in G2 like you did is recoverable for Allies but burning $56 in TTs is not, simply because Axis has little room for error like that. My strong opinion anyway.
Wouldn’t be easier to just restart at G2??? Then again, I guess you would like a mulligan yourself for giving up England…
Start over or Turn 2 restart???
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Oh no the game is lost- you can’t recover from burning that much cash as Axis. There’s little grace for Axis mistakes in this game. Yeah, this game is trash. Start over…I’ll have to mind my Ps and Qs with movement and such.
Any other sucker punch tactics I should be aware of??? Ones that are not too directly stated in the rules???
Giving up England in G2 like you did is recoverable for Allies but burning $56 in TTs is not, simply because Axis has little room for error like that. My strong opinion anyway.
Wouldn’t be easier to just restart at G2??? Then again, I guess you would like a mulligan yourself for giving up England…
Start over or Turn 2 restart???
There are no “Start Over, restart, or mulligans” if you want to conceed we can start a new game.
As far as “brilliant strategic manuevers” not listed or clear, none really come to mind. My advice…if you think your safe, you better double check.
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LOL- you humor me.
Alright EM- I concede- but that is a very cheap win to me. I know what your thinking- “a win is a win…blah blah”…
G1 moves will be the same, I’ll make the thread later. Geez…I’d gotta watch my P’s and Q’s playing you…you make me work harder EM- that’s good- that’s why I like playing you. :lol: You got me fired up now… :-D
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thread is up
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Next time
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Since Alpha+3 is coming out- let’s play that instead. Might as well wait and see the changes. Now that Alpha+3 will be here I have a very deflated interest in playing this Alpha+2 game. I forfeit this game in favor of wanting to play Alpha +3- so its an easy win for you- though it may not have any meaning being an “old” version now… :wink:
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GAME STILL ON…WE’LL CONTINUE BECAUSE OF THIS POST…
_**"Krieghund has reminded me that the “100% Pacific” issue has not been fully resolved yet. To post Alpha +3 before it is would be a waste of time. I know good advice when I hear it and you can either thank Krieghund or throw cabbage at him. I think in the long run you’ll do better to thank him.
More work is still needed and the Alpha +3 is officially postponed till further notice.
Your continued feed back on this matter and other issues is, as always, greatly appreciated.
The problem is that this effort can’t go on forever. A request of those of you who are gracious enough to contribute your ideas and share your game experiences here. When I tell you that I can’t use or don’t agree with you on a given proposal or idea… let it go. Move on. If I say “No thanks” there’s usually a good reason for it. To keep repeating the same thing(s) only jams up and slows down this effort. I hope you understand. Thanks
Larry"**_
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Link to new game…