An incident would not have been needed-Pearl Harbour still would have happened, just without Hitler declaring war on the US. The Battle Of The Atlantic would still have been won by the Allies, it just would have taken longer without the US fully committing to it. US participation would still have increased though, and if Germany did not declare war (which they should not, to make this scenario more likely), the US would have declared war on Germany in 1943. It might have been a different situation with a truce though.
Which war is the most exciting to learn about
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Yeah, well every combatant in war tells themselves and/or their people that they were attacked; never that they were the aggressor
Lincoln was a genious to keep troops in Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor and get the South shoot first.
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1812 war?
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@Frontovik:
1812 war?
and which civil war??You should know about the War of 1812
The US one. -
@Dylan:
@Frontovik:
1812 war?
and which civil war??You should know about the War of 1812
The US one.Why should he know? He may not be from the US, UK, or Canada
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i like the WWI eastern fronts, especially hungary vs russia
the undermentioned southern fronts in the balkans and italy are great to learn about too. the turkish front with the uk attempted invasion. The arab jihad movement. Hell, the fighting in africa is great to learn about along with jockeying done in the far east.
another poster mentioned the mind numbing crap about the western front, and thats true.
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@ABWorsham:
I enjoy studying about the Punic Wars, I consider those three wars as the first World Wars.
Was that
Persia vs Greeks
or
Greeks vs Romansand their allies of coarse.
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@Dylan:
@ABWorsham:
I enjoy studying about the Punic Wars, I consider those three wars as the first World Wars.
Was that
Persia vs Greeks
or
Greeks vs Romansand their allies of coarse.
Rome and Carthage
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@Dylan:
You should know about the War of 1812
Why should he know? He may not be from the US, UK, or Canada
Well see that’s what happens when you don’t come up with a better name for your war.
War of 1812…. sheesh. LAME. :|
We should run a poll to come up with a better name… but I’d be afraid of what suggestions we’d see.
:-oOf course speaking of lousy war names…
@ABWorsham:
@Dylan:
@ABWorsham:
I enjoy studying about the Punic Wars, I consider those three wars as the first World Wars.
Was that
Persia vs Greeks
or
Greeks vs RomansRome and Carthage
OK I imagine Dylan has to be scratching his head wondering how this got to be Punic?
(And yes I know the answer)
It’s like a history teacher named this just to make it more difficult!#660
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Dont the Brits have a different name? They have them for other wars:
French and Indian War-Seven Years’ War
American Revolution-The American War for Independence
World War 1-The First World War/Great War/the archaic and now shown to be an epic fail “War to End All Wars.”
World War 2-The Second World War -
Boy talk about a tough choice!
I think the Chinese civil war, begining with the begining of warlordism in 1917 all the way through the 20’s, second world war and Korea is the most intresting to me. -
Dont the Brits have a different name?
War of the Annoying Colonials?
OK seriously I don’t think they do.
#664
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The term Punic comes from the Latin word Punicus (or Poenicus), meaning “Carthaginian”, with reference to the Carthaginians’ Phoenician ancestry.
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@ABWorsham:
The term Punic comes from the Latin word Punicus (or Poenicus), meaning “Carthaginian”, with reference to the Carthaginians’ Phoenician ancestry.
Well yes, yes but when you studied it in high school surely some of your classmates didn’t find it so easy to connect the dots, hmmm?
#675
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@Dylan:
@Frontovik:
1812 war?
and which civil war??You should know about the War of 1812
The US one.Why should he know? He may not be from the US, UK, or Canada
I thought that was like a war you know, like Napoleonic Wars, World war I and stuff. oh well
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@ABWorsham:
The term Punic comes from the Latin word Punicus (or Poenicus), meaning “Carthaginian”, with reference to the Carthaginians’ Phoenician ancestry.
Well yes, yes but when you studied it in high school surely some of your classmates didn’t find it so easy to connect the dots, hmmm?
#675
I think he copied that from wikipedia
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Frontovik:
1812 war?
and which civil war??You should know about the War of 1812
The US one.Why should he know? He may not be from the US, UK, or Canada
I thought that was like a war you know, like Napoleonic Wars, World war I and stuff. oh well
Arguably, the war of 1812 was part of the Napoleonic Wars, as it distracted Britian from France
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Frontovik:
1812 war?
and which civil war??You should know about the War of 1812
The US one.Why should he know? He may not be from the US, UK, or Canada
I thought that was like a war you know, like Napoleonic Wars, World war I and stuff. oh well
Arguably, the war of 1812 was part of the Napoleonic Wars, as it distracted Britian from France
Well why did they the Russians (and others,) could do most of it, like all they did from there was take Spain, I think.
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Frontovik:
1812 war?
and which civil war??You should know about the War of 1812
The US one.Why should he know? He may not be from the US, UK, or Canada
I thought that was like a war you know, like Napoleonic Wars, World war I and stuff. oh well
Arguably, the war of 1812 was part of the Napoleonic Wars, as it distracted Britian from France
Well why did they the Russians (and others,) could do most of it, like all they did from there was take Spain, I think.
Which was VERY important as it tied down troops from Russia
Other things Britain did:
Blockaded France
Destoryed French/Spanish fleets at Trafalgar
Destroyed the Danish Fleet
Helped the Turks push Napoleon out of Egypt and Syria
Won the Battle of Waterloo, with Prussian help -
@ABWorsham:
The term Punic comes from the Latin word Punicus (or Poenicus), meaning “Carthaginian”, with reference to the Carthaginians’ Phoenician ancestry.
Well yes, yes but when you studied it in high school surely some of your classmates didn’t find it so easy to connect the dots, hmmm?
#675
They didn’t care about the dots. They were more concerned about cars, women, sports and once again women.
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@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Frontovik:
1812 war?
and which civil war??You should know about the War of 1812
The US one.Why should he know? He may not be from the US, UK, or Canada
I thought that was like a war you know, like Napoleonic Wars, World war I and stuff. oh well
Arguably, the war of 1812 was part of the Napoleonic Wars, as it distracted Britian from France
Well why did they the Russians (and others,) could do most of it, like all they did from there was take Spain, I think.
Which was VERY important as it tied down troops from Russia
Other things Britain did:
Blockaded France
Destoryed French/Spanish fleets at Trafalgar
Destroyed the Danish Fleet
Helped the Turks push Napoleon out of Egypt and Syria
Won the Battle of Waterloo, with Prussian helpWaterloo, well Austria, Russia, and Sweden also fought.
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