Kwas (Axis) V. VictoryFirst (Allies) - Europe, Game 2


  • @VictoryFirst

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 5 armour and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Leningrad
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Stalingrad
                  Germans take Stalingrad from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
                  Germans take Iraq from Middle_East
            5 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
                  Germans take Iran from Middle_East
            1 artillery moved from Syria to Iran
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Russia
            1 fighter moved from East Poland to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Turkestan
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Eastern France
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Eastern France
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Eastern France
            1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Eastern France
    
        Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in Leningrad
                Bombing raid in Leningrad rolls: 4 and costs: 4 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 4 PUs
            Battle in Eastern France
                Germans attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Eastern France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Eastern France
                Germans win, taking Eastern France from Americans with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Russia, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Russia
                2 fighters owned by the Germans retreated
                Russians win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters moved from Russia to Belorussia
            3 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            2 fighters moved from Eastern France to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Eastern France to Northern Italy
            1 battleship and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Caucasus to Stalingrad
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Austria to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            5 armour and 8 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : -0.33
    Germans regular : -1.00
    

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  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 54 to 46
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Russians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Finland to Norway
                  Russians take Norway from Germans
            1 armour moved from Norway to Finland
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Turkestan
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Moscow to Turkestan
            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Turkestan
            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Russia
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Turkestan
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkestan
                Russians win, taking Turkestan from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 submarine moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Turkestan to Moscow
    
        Place Units - Russians
            4 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : 1.17
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: British round 7

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Moscow: 6 fighters
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Moscow: 3 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 9 fighters
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Moscow: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Moscow: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 2 bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
                  British take Poland from Germans
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Baltic States
                  Russians take Baltic States from Germans
            2 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco
                  British take Morocco from Germans
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Eastern France
                British attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry in Eastern France, round 2 : 5/15 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern France
                British win, taking Eastern France from Germans with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 aaGun moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France
    
        Place Units - British
            3 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    British regular : 1.50
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 7

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Baltic States
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad
            2 destroyers moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone
            3 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 43 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @VictoryFirst Hmm, I don’t think this German strategy is invincible lol…unless I’m missing something obvious. Probably need more infantry going to Moscow, not just tanks.

    But I may have a trick or two up my sleeve


  • I think you are going to win this game. I shouldn’t have bought that many transports as the US. The amount of pressure their units can put is limited, I think their money is better spent on Fighters to support Moscow and let the British do most of the landing with transports.

    The Germans have the advantage in the end game because they can defend Berlin and put pressure on Moscow very easily.


  • or at least more easily than the Allies can. Yeah I think you are following the right strategy but your G1 on the Eastern Front could have been slightly better and you could have sent less units to Africa. And your fighters shouldn’t be on the Western Front, but in range of Moscow. I think if you did those things Moscow would have fallen by now lol.


  • @VictoryFirst Idk if this move was a good idea, but it was just too funny to pass up lol.

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 10 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Netherlands-Belgium
            5 armour moved from Germany to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Turkestan
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Turkestan
            1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Turkestan
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
            6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Turkestan
            1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
    
        Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in Leningrad
                Bombing raid in Leningrad rolls: 5 and costs: 5 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 5 PUs
            Battle in Poland
                Germans attack with 5 armour and 11 infantry
                British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Americans defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour and 11 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 4/16 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Poland
                Germans win, taking Poland from British with 5 armour and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Turkestan
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Turkestan
                Germans win, taking Turkestan from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Netherlands-Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Netherlands-Belgium
                Germans win, taking Netherlands-Belgium from British with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Russia
                Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            2 fighters moved from Russia to Belorussia
            2 fighters moved from Turkestan to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            13 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            5 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
            1 artillery moved from Iran to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Iran
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Vichy France
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 infantry placed in Stalingrad
            9 infantry placed in Germany
            1 submarine placed in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            2 submarines placed in Danish Sea Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -1.00
    Germans regular : 0.33
    British regular : -1.00
    

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  • @VictoryFirst said in Kwas (Axis) V. VictoryFirst (Allies) - Europe, Game 2:

    I think you are going to win this game. I shouldn’t have bought that many transports as the US. The amount of pressure their units can put is limited, I think their money is better spent on Fighters to support Moscow and let the British do most of the landing with transports.

    The Germans have the advantage in the end game because they can defend Berlin and put pressure on Moscow very easily.

    Interesting that you feel this way. It takes two turns for Americans transports to do relevant things, 1 turn if you’re going for Morocco. It takes about three turns for American fighters to reach Moscow (2 for Lenin, so I do feel it is more important in the early game for Americans to build fighters).

    I think you do eventually need to get the American shuck going. I feel like you got the American shuck down - three sets of transports is the way to go, imo.


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    Two sub attacks. First the one in the Danish Sea Zone

    Russian sub
    [dice 1d6<=2]


  • 1d6<=2: 3; Hits: 0


  • I assume you are going to submerge

    Next is the Baltic Sea Zone. The air units can hit the subs because there are friendly destroyers present.

    [dice 3d6<=4]


  • 3d6<=4: 1, 4, 2; Hits: 3


  • Sub returns fire
    [dice 1d6<=2]


  • 1d6<=2: 3; Hits: 0


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 8

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Turkestan
            6 fighters moved from Moscow to Russia
            6 fighters moved from Moscow to Turkestan
            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Turkestan
            1 armour moved from Finland to Russia
            3 bombers moved from Moscow to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                British loiter and taunt; Americans loiter and taunt; Russians attack with 3 bombers
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged
            Battle in Danish Sea Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 2 submarines
                1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged
            Battle in Turkestan
                Russians attack with 6 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 6 fighters and 2 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkestan
                Russians winGermans winGermans winRussians winRussians win with 3 bombers remaining with 3 bombers remaining with 2 submarines remaining with 2 submarines remaining, taking Turkestan from Germans with 6 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Russia
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 6 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 6 fighters and 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Russia
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Russians win, taking Russia from Germans with 1 armour and 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Baltic Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            6 fighters moved from Russia to Moscow
            6 fighters moved from Turkestan to Moscow
            3 bombers moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Moscow
    
        Place Units - Russians
            4 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : 0.00
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: British round 8

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
                  British take Algeria from Germans
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Germany
                British attack with 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 16 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 20 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 16 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 3/21 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 20 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 7/21 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                    7 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany
                    3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 4/14 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 17 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 3/18 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany
                    4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry in Germany, round 4 : 4/11 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 13 infantry in Germany, round 4 : 8/14 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                    2 artilleries owned by the British and 6 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany
                    4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    British roll dice for 2 armour and 1 artillery in Germany, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Germany, round 5 : 4/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the British and 2 armour owned by the British lost in Germany
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -34
                Casualties for British: 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 16 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 12 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 transport moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - British
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            2 transports placed in English Channel Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    British regular : -2.00
    

    Savegame


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