minor NCM change in AfricaG1.tsvg
VictoryFirst (Germany) vs. The_Good_Captain (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1
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@VictoryFirst changed USA bomber position. final answer! USA4 bomber edit.tsvg
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Baltic States 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 fighter moved from Norway to Finland 1 bomber moved from Norway to Baltic States 2 bombers moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Norway to Baltic States Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Finland Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 2.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Finland Germans win, taking Finland from British with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Germany 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Poland 1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Germany 1 fighter moved from Finland to Germany 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 2 bombers moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 2 fighters moved from France to Germany 9 infantry moved from France to Eastern France 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 11 armour, 5 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from East Poland to Poland 1 artillery moved from Hungary to Poland 2 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Poland 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 5 submarines placed in Danish Sea Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1.33 Germans regular : -1.67 British regular : -0.33 -
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2d6: 3, 3
1d6: 3 -
Three German subs are destroyed and will fire back but before the roll would you like the remaining two to submerge or also return fire?
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The two other subs will submerge and leave the battle. The three that were killed will fire back at the Russian destroyers.
[dice 3d6]
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3d6: 5, 4, 6
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 4 infantry moved from Belorussia to Baltic States 3 infantry moved from Belorussia to East Poland 1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Danish Sea Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from Belorussia to East Poland 2 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to East Poland 1 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 4 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in East Poland Russians attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland Russians win, taking East Poland from Germans with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 4 armour and 4 infantry Germans defend with 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 armour and 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians roll dice for 4 armour and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 4 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Danish Sea Sea Zone: 5 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Danish Sea Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Danish Sea Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Archangel 1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R. 5 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 1 bomber moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad 2 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Leningrad Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 1.00* Russians regular : 3.00**Includes dice results of the Danish Sea Zone battle
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The British now go (this is the only combat move):
destroyer/fighters [dice 4d6]
AC [dice 1d6] -
4d6: 1, 1, 5, 4
1d6: 5 -
subs fire back
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2d6: 3, 6
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Leningrad: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Leningrad: 1 artillery EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode British buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 17 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Danish Sea Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery moved from Leningrad to Baltic Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Norway British take Norway from Germans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 3 transports moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Danish Sea Sea Zone Combat - British Non Combat Move - British 3 infantry moved from Palestine to Syria 1 armour moved from Libya to Palestine 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad Place Units - British 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 38 PUs; end with 55 PUs Some Units in Leningrad change ownership: 1 fighterCombat Hit Differential Summary:
Germans regular : -0.66
British Regular : -0.16 -
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 6 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 destroyers and 3 transports moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Libya to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 3 transports; Russians loiter and taunt Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 3 transports in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 2 transports in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 1 transport in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber and 2 destroyers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for Americans: 3 transports Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 bomber moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Algeria 4 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 3 transports moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco Place Units - Americans 1 armour, 1 bomber and 6 infantry placed in United States 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.00 Germans regular : -0.17 -
That’s a GG, well played. My submarine build was a last-ditch effort to trap the Allied navy and hope for some lucky rolls to destroy it, but unfortunately it didn’t work (in my playtest, I killed two transports and had one sub remaining, and then I had a +22.65 average TUV swing on attacking your navy with the Luftwaffe. Now the TUV swing is -14.09 😅)
I was probably too agressive on turn 1 when attacking Russia which ultimately decided my fate. In my playtest, it went a lot better, I was able to take Ukraine and your odds on attacking Eastern Poland were pretty risky, so that’s why I did that move. However it seems that the outcome of both battles can vary a bit and if you don’t get good rolls, it butterfly-effects into a disaster.
Thank you for playing! Would you like to have a rematch? Do you want to switch sides this time?
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By the way, I managed to make more fixes to the module. I finally discovered why the MIddle East fix did not work for you. It indeed got confused with the other europe map you had installed. The name of the map is specified in multiple spots in the XML file, so in the fixed version I changed the name to “europe_fix” everywhere, except for one spot which I missed where it still was “europe” . This apparently made the game load files from the original map, which didn’t have a Middle East flag. Still not sure why it exactly does that, but I got the same error as you while loading europe_fix and having the original europe map also in my downloadMaps folder. Anyway it has been corrected now and it should work.
I made more fixes to submarine movement and strategic bombing raids. I tried to fix what I could but unfortunately most of them are not possible, or simply take more work than just editing. I’ll send you an email with the ZIP and an overview of the changes. We can play the second game on the fixed version.
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@VictoryFirst Playing as either side would be very helpful for me. I would love to play again as either side. Let me know what side you’d like.
If I’m Germany, my bid is a fighter in France. Just let me know your side and bid.
I feel that this game comes down to the Western Allies either killing Germany or saving Russia. If that is true, my focus was saving Russia in this game.
I was prepared to lose the whole fleet with that negative TUV and all if it weakened the German air force. I don’t think money matters much to the western allies so much since the economy is totally stacked in their favor. Although accepting that (if true) is not intuitive…
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Yeah I think even if I destroyed your fleet the Allies would still have won just because I had no chance of posing threats to Russia. At some point, I couldn’t even move into East Poland anymore 😂
Anyway, I’d be happy to switch sides after every game, so I’ll be the Allies this time. I’ll place two infantry in Malta and two infantry in Ukraine.
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