TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3
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Game History
Round: 24 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 4 battleships, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: tank = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia 12 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Mesopotamia 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Sevastopol 3 fighters moved from Ukraine to Galicia 12 infantry moved from Belgium to Picardy 11 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Holland to Belgium 1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 1 infantry and 10 tanks moved from Kiel to Holland 1 infantry and 8 tanks moved from Berlin to Kiel 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from SZ 11 to SZ 10 1 infantry moved from Bordeaux to Burgundy 1 infantry moved from Burgundy to Picardy Combat - Germans Battle in Mesopotamia Germans attack with 12 artilleries and 25 infantry British defend with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries and 25 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 17/37 hits, 16.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 9/17 hits, 7.50 expected hits 9 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 tank owned by the British, 1 artillery owned by the British, 10 infantry owned by the British and 5 fighters owned by the British lost in Mesopotamia Germans win, taking Mesopotamia from British with 12 artilleries and 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43 Casualties for Germans: 9 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 4 battleships placed in SZ 10 1 transport placed in SZ 11 3 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67 British regular : 1.50 -
@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:
Just take Paris, will you? I can’t stand to lose anymore (sorry if that sounded pathetic, but I do take this stuff slightly personally, even if I mean no ill will toward you, and I don’t like conceding).
Believe me, I am taking Paris as quickly as possible. The fact is, the force that is there is barely enough to do the job and can just as easily fail as succeed when I run the calc (they will be exposed to a decent French counter attack after entry). The tanks are coming up to do the job. You’ll just have to trust me when I say that this is a normal game when it comes to playing to the exact victory conditions listed in the manual. Concession is the norm and would totally be warranted at this point. But I can’t in good faith simply pull a trigger that has a chance at making the game go even longer.
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I know, I’m acting like an idiot.
I believe you. Considering how you took Holland I hope that means I only have to endure a couple more turns of utter humiliation.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:
I know, I’m acting like an idiot.
I believe you. Considering how you took Holland I hope that means I only have to endure a couple more turns of utter humiliation.
I really think if its not fun we should call the game. You played tenaciously and I even reached out to my buddy Ragnell804 to talk to him about how hard you’re fighting and how hard it is to truly bury the Entente - its not like this when the CP lose.
Its nobody’s fault the game designers decided to make the victory conditions so odd. I am up to 52 games completed of 1914, and yours are the only that are not played to concession. You should not feel humiliated and I’d hate to think that’s whats happening here (I’m incredibly impressed actually). I’d just hate to think that playing this way while you’re not having fun will make you hate the game.
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It’s not just this game, I play almost all my games to victory conditions.
I still enjoy these games, even if the end is sometimes quite exhausting. It’s just a somewhat irrational desire to play to the very end.
I guess I got a little over the top with “humiliated”. It’s just sad to see my guys get defeated. Sort of how I guess those generals back in the day felt when they were losing.
I would like to still play.
I think you’re right that it’s much harder to defeat the Allies. I saw that when Tamer of Beasts beat you as the Allies he only did it in 10 turns. A number that shocked me when our games go past 12 turns, and in this case, 20.
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Game History
Round: 24 Puchase Units - French French buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - French 1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 2 to SZ 14 Combat Move - French Place Units - French 4 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - French French collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 24 Puchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 11 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Constantinople: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Allied to Constantinople: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 tank moved from Persia to Mesopotamia 4 artilleries, 15 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia 1 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to Persia 6 fighters moved from Persia to Mesopotamia 16 artilleries and 13 tanks moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 battleship moved from SZ 14 to SZ 7 1 battleship moved from SZ 8 to SZ 7 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo British take Belgian Congo from AustroHungarians 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to British East Africa British take British East Africa from AustroHungarians Combat - British Battle in Mesopotamia British attack with 7 artilleries, 6 fighters, 18 infantry and 3 tanks Germans defend with 12 artilleries and 16 infantry British roll dice for 7 artilleries, 6 fighters, 18 infantry and 3 tanks in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 13/34 hits, 14.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries and 16 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 18/28 hits, 14.00 expected hits Units damaged: 3 tanks owned by the British 13 infantry owned by the Germans and 15 infantry owned by the British lost in Mesopotamia Germans and British reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for British: 15 infantry Casualties for Germans: 13 infantry Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from SZ 7: 2 battleships EDIT: Adding units owned by British to SZ 8: 2 battleships EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - British 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 11 infantry and 1 tank placed in India Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 1 fighter and 10 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to London: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to SZ 8: 2 battleships EDIT: Adding units owned by British to SZ 8: 1 battleship EDIT: Removing units owned by British from SZ 8: 1 battleship EDIT: Adding units owned by British to SZ 8: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 4.00 British regular : -1.83 -
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Game History
Round: 24 Puchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 11 PUs; Combat Move - Americans AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 17 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 16 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 battleship moved from SZ 16 to SZ 7 2 battleships moved from SZ 20 to SZ 16 1 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to Algeria French take Algeria from AustroHungarians 2 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 23 2 infantry moved from SZ 23 to Togoland 3 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to Algeria 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco 10 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 8 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 8 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco Combat - Americans Americans creates battle in territory SZ 16 Combat Move - Americans 1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1 Place Units - Americans 3 infantry placed in United States of America Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from United States of America: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to SZ 1: 1 battleship EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 11 to 5 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 25 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
AustroHungarians mine : -0.67 -
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Game History
Round: 25 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 19 infantry and 3 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 3 units repaired. 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Marseilles to Piedmont 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 1 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria 8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Bulgaria to Constantinople 5 infantry moved from Romania to Sevastopol 4 fighters moved from Romania to Constantinople 11 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania 2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 18 infantry and 1 tank moved from Vienna to Galicia Combat - AustroHungarians Battle in Constantinople AustroHungarians attack with 18 artilleries, 24 fighters, 70 infantry and 5 tanks British defend with 1 factory and 1 port; Neutral_Allied defend with 1 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 18 artilleries, 24 fighters, 70 infantry and 5 tanks in Constantinople, round 2 : 48/117 hits, 48.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Constantinople, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied lost in Constantinople AustroHungarians win, taking Constantinople from British, taking Mesopotamia from Germans with 18 artilleries, 24 fighters, 70 infantry and 5 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1 EDIT: Removing units owned by British from SZ 20: 1 mines EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to SZ 20: 1 mines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - AustroHungarians 1 artillery, 19 infantry and 3 tanks placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 76 PUs; end with 76 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
AustroHungarians regular : 0.00 British regular : -0.50 -
Game History
Round: 25 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 battleships and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Mesopotamia: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Mesopotamia: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 12 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol 1 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine 3 fighters moved from Galicia to Hanover 1 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover 12 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Belgium to Picardy 1 infantry and 10 tanks moved from Holland to Belgium 1 infantry and 8 tanks moved from Kiel to Holland 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 1 transport moved from SZ 11 to SZ 10 Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 5 battleships placed in SZ 10 1 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 62 PUs; end with 64 PUs -
@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:
It’s not just this game, I play almost all my games to victory conditions.
I still enjoy these games, even if the end is sometimes quite exhausting. It’s just a somewhat irrational desire to play to the very end.
I guess I got a little over the top with “humiliated”. It’s just sad to see my guys get defeated. Sort of how I guess those generals back in the day felt when they were losing.
I would like to still play.
I think you’re right that it’s much harder to defeat the Allies. I saw that when Tamer of Beasts beat you as the Allies he only did it in 10 turns. A number that shocked me when our games go past 12 turns, and in this case, 20.
Yeah, in Tamers game, I extended a concession on turn 5 because things were going so badly everywhere. However, I wanted to play out a few more turns just to be sure and Tamer obliged.
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Dang. Sure hope he doesn’t crush me in my game with him.
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Game History
Round: 25 Puchase Units - French French buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 25 to 22 EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to United States of America: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from SZ 1: 1 battleship EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to SZ 1: 1 cruiser EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to United States of America: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from United States of America: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to United States of America: 1 artillery EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 22 to 21 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1 Combat Move - French Place Units - French 3 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - French French collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 25 Puchase Units - British British buy 3 battleships; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 3 units repaired. 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to Persia 16 artilleries, 1 infantry and 13 tanks moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia 7 artilleries, 6 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Mesopotamia to Persia 1 infantry moved from British East Africa to German East Africa British take German East Africa from Germans 1 cruiser moved from SZ 23 to SZ 7 1 artillery moved from Belgian Congo to German East Africa 1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to French Equatorial Africa French take French Equatorial Africa from AustroHungarians Combat - British Battle in Mesopotamia British attack with 16 artilleries, 3 infantry and 13 tanks British roll dice for 16 artilleries, 3 infantry and 13 tanks in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 15/32 hits, 16.00 expected hits Ottomans roll dice for 1 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Mesopotamia British win, taking Mesopotamia from Ottomans with 16 artilleries, 3 infantry and 13 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Neutral_True: 1 infantry Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Mesopotamia: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Persia: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Mesopotamia: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Mesopotamia: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Persia: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 4 battleships and 1 submarine moved from SZ 8 to SZ 9 Place Units - British 3 battleships placed in SZ 9 Turn Complete - British British collect 42 PUs; end with 44 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Ottomans regular : -0.50 British regular : -1.00 -
Game History
Round: 25 Puchase Units - Ottomans Ottomans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Turn Complete - Ottomans Ottomans collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 25 Puchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Portugal Americans take Portugal from AustroHungarians 4 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 8 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14 8 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Portugal 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 2 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 2 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Portugal 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to Algeria 2 battleships moved from SZ 16 to SZ 7 1 battleship moved from SZ 7 to SZ 9 1 cruiser moved from SZ 1 to SZ 8 2 infantry moved from Togoland to Nigeria Combat - Americans Battle in Nigeria Americans attack with 2 infantry AustroHungarians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Nigeria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Nigeria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Nigeria AustroHungarians and Americans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Tunisia Americans attack with 4 infantry AustroHungarians defend with 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 4 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Tunisia AustroHungarians and Americans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry Combat Move - Americans 1 transport moved from SZ 23 to SZ 13 Place Units - Americans 1 battleship and 1 cruiser placed in SZ 1 Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.00 AustroHungarians regular : 1.50
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