Operation Sealion a Possibility with AA1940 Europe?

[idk_iam_swiss]

I worded it wrong. I meant past moscow.

[WILD BILL]

@idk_iam_swiss:

None? my grandparents ONLY play if I include the paratrooper house rule. and I always ignore that rule that you lose all your money if a victory city is taken.

Wow that’s awesome your grandparents play. Was wondering if your from Europe (iam swiss) and they have a first hand experience. If that’s the case I would think they see this game in a whole other light.

[idk_iam_swiss]

I am From america but they arent. Its not a bad thing, uhm from my grandparents prospective they are pro american, but they dont get why americans dont like the french.(neither do I for that matter) lol  I’am somewhat swiss. But I am american first if you look at the trend they arent having kids because its too damn expensive to live there. Yeah theyll play as long as they arent germany. everyone else in my family will play if you give russia 5 extra IPC. My grandfather thinks that america overexagerates its victories. I guess hes a little bit right, russia DID make it to berlin first. (I think everyone gets a peice of victory pie)

[cannon fodder]

That is so cool, having your grandparents or even your family to play Axis and Allies…  It give new meaning to Game Night!  War is on!!!  By the way which side usually wins?

@idk_iam_swiss:

I am From america but they arent. Its not a bad thing, uhm from my grandparents prospective they are pro american, but they dont get why americans dont like the french.(neither do I for that matter) lol  I’am somewhat swiss. But I am american first if you look at the trend they arent having kids because its too damn expensive to live there. Yeah theyll play as long as they arent germany. everyone else in my family will play if you give russia 5 extra IPC. My grandfather thinks that america overexagerates its victories. I guess hes a little bit right, russia DID make it to berlin first. (I think everyone gets a peice of victory pie)

[idk_iam_swiss]

In the new AA42 (the $30 one at target) They typically KGF, if my navy can keep the americans away for just two turns, then Axis wins. ( two turns is all it takes to take one of the alliy factories) in AA50….its more in depth. I hate to say it but it really depends on whos italy. if Italy can distract and pilliage russia. then Axis wins. While germany pwns everything else. AA50 is a lot more fun, because there are a LOT more variables, and (to my knowledge) there isnt any set strategy or correct “always win” strategy. in AA50…its pretty even.

[cannon fodder]

What you don’t give quarters even for your own Grandparents? :)  Wow, they even play the Anniversary edition?  That game makes my head spin, too many variables as you said.

@idk_iam_swiss:

In the new AA42 (the $30 one at target) They typically KGF, if my navy can keep the americans away for just two turns, then Axis wins. ( two turns is all it takes to take one of the alliy factories) in AA50….its more in depth. I hate to say it but it really depends on whos italy. if Italy can distract and pilliage russia. then Axis wins. While germany pwns everything else. AA50 is a lot more fun, because there are a LOT more variables, and (to my knowledge) there isnt any set strategy or correct “always win” strategy. in AA50…its pretty even.

[Guest]

Never give quaarter. Always play to win decisively.

[idk_iam_swiss]

With experienced players I agree. With new people…they gotta have fun too I typically give leeway the first 5 games.

[LuckyDay]

@maverick_76:

Hey guys, here is an end to all of this: eliminate capitols, only have victory cities! As long as a country has an industrial complex then they are still in the fight. So for Russia for instance, if Moscow is taken, if they have a factory in Siberia they can still fight. You don’t lose any money, but you lose the IPC value, which Moscow would be a lot of value (probably at least 5-10 IPC’s). I think what you guys are forgetting is that you can’t just place an IC wherever, according to LH the territory you place it in must have a minimum IPC value and the IC can only produce 3 units max, or 10 depending on what type of IC you bought. So you as a country are defeated when you lose all your IC’s. You can still move troops and all that but you cannot build, effectively eliminating you.

see, now that would be a very simple way to view it with the rules, forget moving capitals and all that jazz.  that could work.

@idk_iam_swiss:

I guess hes a little bit right, russia DID make it to berlin first. (I think everyone gets a peice of victory pie)

of course, if you look at how Russia got a 6 month headstart getting into the war and it is 6000 km from washington dc to berlin as compared to 1400 km from moscow to berlin, and still russia only made it to berlin first by a matter of days…

If switzerland had actually gotten into the war, they could have ended the war by taking berlin in a couple weeks.  just advance every person with a rifle from switzerland into germany (which was about everyone) and bang bang, all done.  kisses!..
:roll: :-D :-o

[idk_iam_swiss]

But switzerland was sorta neutral. they had a bunch of nazi gold…not sayin its right, but it happened. idk why the swiss didnt want to attack germany to tell you the truth.

[Guest]

Because then the Swiss would have been Swiss cheese. :-D

[LuckyDay]

The Swiss were nasty to both sides, actively attacked either side that crossed it’s borders and interning thousands of Allies and Axis soldiers for the duration.

I can’t find the exact quote, maybe it’s a misnomer, but it’s credited to Hitler as asking a Swiss Leader what he would think about 5 million Nazi soldiers crossing the Swiss border and the Swiss Leader replying that the citizens of Switzerland would grab their rifles, fire 5 shots and go home.  Never did German attempt such.

At times Germany and Italy would mount invasion forces at the border only to find hundreds of thousands of Swiss citizens all armed mass on the other side to counter them.  Their terrain helped them, but their preparedness with each home having at least one rifle and people trained to use them.  Should the Nazi’s invade, they would have been shot at from every window and building throughout the country.  They fought for their neutrality a long time.

[Funcioneta]

@LuckyDay:

of course, if you look at how Russia got a 6 month headstart getting into the war and it is 6000 km from washington dc to berlin as compared to 1400 km from moscow to berlin, and still russia only made it to berlin first by a matter of days…

Well, in fact, USSR (not Russia) could had arrived a couple of months before, maybe even more. But Stalin wanted ensure soviet influence sphere on Balkans and eastern Europe, so he stopped assault on Poland and only made a full advance to west once they ensured Romania, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia. If USSR had chosen a eary push against Berlin, they could take whole Germany for them, but Balkans would be lost to the british. Of course, Stalin waited to see how D-Day worked, if failure, you can guess he would rush to Berlin and later Paris

War in Europe was won before D-Day (soviets would win anyway alone at that date), that’s credit for soviets. But D-Day saved France from stalinism, that’s credit for USA & UK

By the way, I think Switzerland should counted as impassable (similar to Himalayas and Sahara). Mainly for the reasons stated later

[WILD BILL]

I also think Switzerland should be impassible, although Hitler had invasion plans for the Swiss. I just don’t see the need in game play to go through it. Other neutrals have more strategic value.

[idk_iam_swiss]

Can anyone explain to me why americans dont really like french people?

[Krieghund]

Beats me.  I don’t have any problem with them as a whole.

[Adlertag]

@idk_iam_swiss:

Can anyone explain to me why americans dont really like french people?

They did start two world wars, and both times made USA bail them out.

[Funcioneta]

@Adlertag:

@idk_iam_swiss:

Can anyone explain to me why americans dont really like french people?

They did start two world wars, and both times made USA bail them out.

Not true in both cases. France never did the first shoot and USA didn’t won the war alone (in fact, where the french who did more work in WWI and soviets -in Europe, in Pacific were USA- in WW2)

And don’t forget french and spanish aid to USA in 1776 …

[Adlertag]

@Funcioneta:

France never did the first shoot

You are correct as always. It was Germany that in both cases startet a small local war, and then France come and made it world wars.

In 1914 Austria was defending herself against serbian terrorists, not very different from yours 9/11 and muslim terrorists today, and this could have been a small local war if France had not declared war on Germany, and pushed Germany to attack through neutral Belgium.

In 1939 a lot of German territory was occupied due to the Versailles Treaty, and because of that Germany attacked Poland in order to liberate the native germans that lived there, and again this too could have been a small local war, if France had not yet again declared war on Germany and made the second world war.

[idk_iam_swiss]

your prospective implies that both world wars are all frances fault. I neither agree or disagree with you. you just have  just an interesting view of history.