L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43)

[jkeller]

3 Italian fighters

[jkeller]

If you need to adjust noncombat based on results I have no problem with that of course

[trulpen]

The rerolled battle.

L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB battle.tsvg

[trulpen]

Adjusted. 2 UK-figs on the US-ac.

UCU8 L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg

[jkeller]

@jkeller holy shit 34 ipc below expectation lol that was horrible

[trulpen]

Wasn’t good for Mussolini. With the bad result on the first go I can understand you wanted another shot. Could’ve worked, but this was of course worse. I’ll try to not assume so much regarding scrambles, but rather await your decisions.

[trulpen]

The difference in TUV between the two results was just 8 though.

[trulpen]

Oh, wait, perhaps not.

[jkeller]

wasnt based on dice at all but average expected outcome. of course average does not mean it will be better than even a bad initial roll lol. oh well i would still make same decision again especially with even a small possibility of killing uk fighters and german counter on british fleet

[jkeller]

italy l21-sf-jkeller-vs-trulpen-43-oob (36).tsvg

[trulpen]

Yes, seems correct.

First was +26.

Second +34.

Expected TUV was +10.

[trulpen]

@jkeller said in L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43):

wasnt based on dice at all but average expected outcome. of course average does not mean it will be better than even a bad initial roll lol. oh well i would still make same decision again especially with even a small possibility of killing uk fighters and german counter on british fleet

Yep, that actually makes a lot of sense.

[jkeller]

initial roll was -28 vs -20 expected. adjusted battle was -44 vs a -10 expected. but i would do it again

[jkeller]

ya first one -26. second one -44

[trulpen]

Franz8 L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg

[jkeller]

Game History

Round: 9

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 77 PUs; 
        Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
        4 infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
        1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
        11 armour and 22 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Samara
        4 fighters moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 97 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 6 fighters
            British defend with 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 1 submarine
            1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged
                Germans roll dice for 6 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Northwest Persia
            Germans attack with 11 armour and 22 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans roll dice for 11 armour and 22 mech_infantrys in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 9/33 hits, 9.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                3 artilleries owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia
                Germans roll dice for 11 armour and 20 mech_infantrys in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 10/31 hits, 8.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia
            Germans win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 11 armour and 18 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
            Casualties for Germans: 4 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for British: 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        Battle in Kazakhstan
            Germans attack with 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan
            Germans win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Samara
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara
            Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Vologda
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Vologda, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Vologda, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
            Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        1 bomber moved from Samara to Volgograd
        3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        3 artilleries moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
        1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
        8 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 bomber moved from Vologda to Archangel
        1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Volgograd
        2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        3 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        2 aaGuns moved from France to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        3 infantry placed in Ukraine
        3 infantry placed in Volgograd
        Germans undo move 1.
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        2 infantry placed in Germany
        3 infantry placed in France
        1 fighter and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 5.
        1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        2 infantry placed in France

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
        Germans collect 62 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 62 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 84 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.33
Russians regular : -1.67
Germans regular : 4.83
British regular : -1.33

[jkeller]

german l21-sf-jkeller-vs-trulpen-43-oob (37).tsvg

[jkeller]

germany l21-sf-jkeller-vs-trulpen-43-oob (37).tsvg

[trulpen]

Russia roars.

R9 L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg

Game History

Round: 9

   Purchase Units - Russians

       Russians buy 5 artilleries and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 



   Combat Move - Russians

       1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska

             Russians take Timguska from Germans

       2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda

       2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Samara

       1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk

       1 fighter moved from Russia to Smolensk

       5 infantry moved from Russia to Samara

       1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara

       4 infantry moved from Russia to Samara

       1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk

       6 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda

       1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara



   Combat - Russians

       Battle in Smolensk

           Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry

           Germans defend with 1 infantry

               Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits

               Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits

               1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk

           Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3

           Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

       Battle in Samara

           Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 15 infantry

           Germans defend with 2 infantry

               Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 15 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 2/17 hits, 3,50 expected hits

               Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits

               2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara

           Russians win, taking Samara from Germans with 2 artilleries and 15 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6

           Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

       Battle in Vologda

           Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 10 infantry

           Germans defend with 3 infantry

               Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 10 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 4/12 hits, 2,67 expected hits

               Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits

               1 infantry owned by the Russians and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda

           Russians win, taking Vologda from Germans with 2 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6

           Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

           Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry



   Non Combat Move - Russians

       1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Russia

       1 aaGun moved from Russia to Samara

       1 aaGun moved from Russia to Vologda

       1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

       2 aaGuns and 9 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia

       1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda

       1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara

       1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara

       1 armour moved from Tobruk to Egypt



   Place Units - Russians

       5 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Russia



   Turn Complete - Russians

       Russians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs

       Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -1,00

Russians regular : 0,00

[jkeller]

i still dont have a good grasp of these sea rules in this version. Can transport load in combat move with a sub in the sea zone? can it offload in a seazone with a lone sub?