ABH and crockett36, (A+69) tutor game

[trulpen]

A des is better, if you can afford it, but I’d say the sub is sufficient to deter an attack with only 2 subs.

[crockett36]

check out this file people. I call it the Winston’s bulldog. Every territory and sea zone in the south got an extra unit. This would give the Brits more units than any other power. Just playing around.

[crockett36]

@crockett36 colonial monster.tsvg

[crockett36]

@crockett36

Let me beat on this for a minute. Gotta say, looks fantastic.

fig Scotland (10) preserves fleet in 111. Sea Lion prevent
fig Moscow (10) Can be used right away for Pac VC prevent. And possibly Moscow prevent.
fig Stalingrad (10) ditto above.
inf Yunnan (3) Pac VC prevent.
art Szechwan (4) Pac VC prevent. All of these are also preventing economic victory.
sub z98 (6) preserves Brit units by strengthening Taranto, effecting Italian economic expansion.
sub z106 (6) Still not convinced about this. If enemy doesn’t go for 111, this sz is going to be attacked by 3 subs. Could help prevent London.
art Sudan (4) economic prevent. Early settlement of the Africa question helps Moscow prevent or Pac VC prevent.
tank Cairo (6) see above regarding Africa.
sub z91 (6) Economic prevent if used against Italy. London prevent if used against Bismarck.
inf Alexandria (3) Should be an artillery I think. See above about early Africa.

Two options: I see. 1. Knock two artilleries down to infantry and buy a destroyer for 106. He’s got to use those subs. 2. an infantry in Gibraltar and an infantry in London. What do you think Trulpen?

[crockett36]

squash Japan.tsvg pure Pac VC prevent. Not serious, but cool. China gets three units, the US 4, Anzac 3 I think.

[trulpen]

@crockett36 said in ABH and crockett36, (A+69) tutor game:.

Two options: I see. 1. Knock two artilleries down to infantry and buy a destroyer for 106. He’s got to use those subs. 2. an infantry in Gibraltar and an infantry in London. What do you think Trulpen?

Actually, I’d exchange the tank for a mech instead, I think, and put the des in z91. However, there was 1 IPC left and then I’d exchange the chinese art for and inf. Think that’s actually better, since the plan is to get China art anyway and if J doesn’t crush Yunnan J1-3 they will build enough art on their own anyway.

The beauty of placing a sub in z106 is that G would have to go in with 3 subs in order to secure it, although 2 might still suffice, but it can dive if no enemy des are present. The subs left are then rather easily sunk on UK1 with the help of the bomber, cruiser and sub.

[trulpen]

@crockett36 said in ABH and crockett36, (A+69) tutor game:

check out this file people. I call it the Winston’s bulldog. Every territory and sea zone in the south got an extra unit. This would give the Brits more units than any other power. Just playing around.

Haven’t looked, but what you mainly want is to have as much impact on the board as early as possible rather than a specific nation trumping number own units.

[crockett36]

@trulpen there is a way that seems right to a man but it only leads to death. The real question is: is the devil you don’t know worse than the devil you know.

We re all choosing to blunt the axis attack and enhance the British attacks. The simple fact is: we’ve been playing with those challenges for years. Drop 69 into Russia and Moscow will not fall turn 6 or 7 or 8. Sea lion will be a long that must be tried but will probably fail.

But I m on a team and committed to foiling g1j1

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

@crockett36 decision time: what are your orders for the starting bid?

[crockett36]

English bid: 43

6 1 sub in 98 economic prevent 6
7 1 transport in 71 Economic prevent 13
6 1 sub in 91 economic prevent or Sea Lion prevent 19
10 1 fighter in Scotland Sea Lion prevent 29
10 1 fighter in Malta 39
4 1 artillery in Alexandria 43

Russian bid: 15
3 1 infantry in Archangel 3
3 1 infantry in Karelia Moscow prevent 6
3 1 infantry in Vyborg Moscow prevent 9
3 1 infantry in Novgorod Moscow prevent 12
3 1 infantry in Belarus 15

China bid: 10
4 1 artillery in Szechwan Pac VC prevent 4
3 1 infantry in Yunnan Pac VC prevent 7
4 1 artillery in Kweichow Pac VC prevent 11

43 + 15 + 11=69

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

If this is the final bid decision, please message me the email you want for the dice server and I will get this match under way.

[abh]

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[abh]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 armour, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 109 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to France
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

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[Arthur Bomber Harris]

The bid was very impactful at preserving one of the Atlantic fleets and guarenteeing the Med. I think that could have been accomplished much cheaper with just a fighter in Scotland and the sub, but overall not bad.

The 15 PUs spent in Russia will help protect Moscow from falling on G6, but long-term I don’t think they will be that impactful. Not a waste, but not giving me much scare as the Axis.

I will have to see how the China bid affects my Japanese strategy. So much will depend on the dice rolls on the first turn. I personally would have been much more scared if you had a large number of Russian planes that could have flown over on R1 and guaranteed no Japanese capture of Yunnan on J2. Trulpen’s bid was much more impactful than what you ended up with.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

Scramble?

[crockett36]

@arthur-bomber-harris I’ve never done it and he literally said he wasn’t great at oob. I personally don’t think that’s true, but it didn’t give me enough confidence to go out on a limb. Yeah the Russian part had to be enough to help bit not enough to deter Barbarossa.

Let me look.

[crockett36]

Calling squirecam, no limit, trulpen, world. should I scramble? I think I should scramble into 109 with both Scotland and London fighters. 6 vs 6 with me throwing 2 pips more. Probably 55/45 my favor and the transport is saved in a draw. Take the Scottish and French as casualties first. My losses would be fractionally more expensive since my first loss is 2 ipcs more expensive. My vote would be to scramble out of both air bases into 109 and charge the pilots to shoot straight and pray a blessing on them.

the cleverist spin I can put on this is that he is attempting to blunt the English attack on 97, betting on even odds.

[abh]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 armour, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 109 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 109 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to France
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

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[Arthur Bomber Harris]

sorry, rushed through that planning and had one too few subs in 109. That would have been a disaster.

Scrambles?