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Commando Brado
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Let’s say there is a German sub in SZ6, along w/a German cruiser. And I want to attack SZ6 w/a British battleship, bomber and 1 FTR. Can the German sub submerse before the British battleship gets a chance to fire on it if the German player so choses?
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Krieghund Official Q&A
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Yes, before any of the UK units fire.
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Woodstock
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Also note that your british fighters dont get to shoot at the german sub at all, as you are not bringing a destroyer along with you.
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In every game of axis and allies AA I have played… Subs havebeen useless. Nobody has ever bought any subs. Destroyers are so esily obtained and massed with a fleet they provide cover from subs. Germany was famed for its “wolfpack” but in AA germany doesnt even get to build a fleet unless the allies are losing hard.

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Krieghund already explained that it is a problem of wording, the word selected “attack” should have been “surprise strike” or “surprise firing”, if I am not making a mistake.

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given this logic, which I am not disputing, why then do subs defend at 1 and attack at 2? :)

same reason why fighters attack at 3 and defend at 4 :wink:

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