• '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Hobbes:

    I’d add: if the Allies are going after Japan, don’t buy any ICs for Japan, with the possible exception of 1 for Manchuria. If the Allies take control of japanese ICs on FIC, Kwangtung or India then you’ve just made the Allies task of conquering J a lot easier.

    I disagree to the extreme!  Do not, under ANY circumstances, by an IC for Japan!  Sink the American fleet, then work on landing troops in Buryatia or FIC and work from there!

    If it’s a KJF, England has an IC in India, America has IC’s in China and Sinkiang.  Your IC in Manchuria will just get over run or your fleet will be sunk.


  • @Jennifer:

    I disagree to the extreme!  Do not, under ANY circumstances, by an IC for Japan!  Sink the American fleet, then work on landing troops in Buryatia or FIC and work from there!
    If it’s a KJF, England has an IC in India, America has IC’s in China and Sinkiang.  Your IC in Manchuria will just get over run or your fleet will be sunk.

    And I agree with you if there are all of those ICs laying around and G is merely sitting around without pressuring Caucasus/West Russia enough. However a KFJ is not an easy strategy to pursue because of the amount of coordination necessary between the allies and having to coordinate Russia’s defense at the same time.
    An IC on Manchuria can help prevent the Allies from taking Asia while releasing your fleet to retake the islands, if the Sinkiang/India ICs have to help defend R from G’s attacks.


  • Hey guys I am in the middle of a total victory game but just wanted to thank you for all your help. As Japan I have taken India, China and Sinkiang and I am on my way to put pressure of Germany. I turned out that Germany needs help now not Japan, but with the Japanese army advancing on Moscow, Germany will soon be relieved.

    So thanks for everything!!!  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D


  • Hey, Zhukov, that Hitler-cat is mighty cool  8-) 8-)

    Where can I buy one?


  • At your local nazi corner store  :wink:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    If you have Hawaii and USA is going KJF, go bombers.  3 Bombers should be enough to remove 10 IPC a round from USA. =)  Even if one does every 6 shots, you’re still doing massive dmg!

    Then take Sinkiang, China, Hawaii and Brazil and USA is earning less then Russia.


  • @Lucifer:

    Hey, Zhukov, that Hitler-cat is mighty cool  8-) 8-)

    Where can I buy one?

    HA! I would soo get a cat and die it’s hair on it’s lip like that!  :lol:  :mrgreen:

    Anywho….The reason if the japs fall, germany gets it’s @&& kicked is cuase of the extra IC that the Allies get, and then they go all out on the riech…HIEL GEWEHR!!!  :evil:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    The allies can survive the loss of a nation.  The Axis cannot.

    It has nothing to do with the industrial on the capitol.  It’s the unleashing of units on the lone super power.


  • Actually the Axis can, IF one Allied capital has already fallen, and IF one of the remaining Allies is severely weakened already.


  • @ncscswitch:

    Actually the Axis can, IF one Allied capital has already fallen, and IF one of the remaining Allies is severely weakened already.

    yes, i remember my old game against 4th Mac in which i stayed with Japan only
    captured Moscow and tried to take Los Angeles/Washington
    i lost the game

    it is very difficult to achieve it

    but yes, it can be done

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @ncscswitch:

    Actually the Axis can, IF one Allied capital has already fallen, and IF one of the remaining Allies is severely weakened already.

    Only if the axis player is exceptional or the allied player a doofus, IMHO.

    Japan takes Moscow.  England takes Germany and America takes S. Europe (and W. Europe with an IC on it.)

    Who’s going to win?  Japan, or the allies?


    America takes Japan, Manchuria, Kwangtung, Philippines, Okinawa and New Guinea.  England takes Borneo, FIC and E. Indies.  Germany takes Russia but has no fleet of which to speak.

    England turtles, safe in the knowledge that Germany has no fleet and most of her army is destroyed taking Russia.  Even the thought of losing Africa is meaningless as it has two major island groups to supplement the missing IPC.

    Who’s going to win?  Germany, or the allies?


    Sure, there’s a chance the axis may still live, but not a good one.  The Allies, on the other hand, have a very good chance of surviving the loss of a capitol, provided they have major armies left and significant income.


  • Well, I have seen several players on here do it as Japan.

    The first I think was JSP taking UK 2 turns after Moscow fell in a Tournament game…


  • Generally, if one of your capitals is lost and u can’t take it back, and if u can’t take one of the enemies capitals, then
    the game is lost.

    I’ve had Berlin as allies, and jap had moscow, allies won. Another game the same happened, jap
    was too strong and I conceded rnd 15-16 something  :-)

    If G have Moscow and US have Tokyo most games will probably be won by the player who has the stamina to
    play 50 rnds…  :-) :lol:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    The trick is engineering it so England gets Germany or S. Europe and America gets the other.

    I like one power to have W. Europe and S. Europe and the other to have Germany because it means I can put 22 units on Europe a round vs Japan’s 12 in Asia. (assuming you buy an IC in W. Europe, and who doesn’t at that point?)


  • Me for one Jen.

    Once Germany has fallen and the Allies control Balkans and Eastern and have at least dead-zoned Ukraine/Belo/Karelia against a Japan assault, it is time for The Big Gulp in the Pacific as the US…

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    You’d still want an IC in W. Europe for England so that you can move the British fleet into the Med to pincer the Japanese fleet then.

    Anyway, most players will just surrender after Moscow or Berlin falls. (Assuming a normal situation, which is to say, massive Axis armies, pitiful Allied armies or badly positioned Allied armies.  (switch if axis falls not allies.))

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