Hey all,

This forum doesn’t seem to get much love lately so I’ll keep populating with new D-Day experiences.  Our last game was particularly wild because we threw in the forture cards and tactic cards.  The tactics didn’t hurt as much as the fortune cards did.  In reality, my bad fortune probably won me the game in the end.

On the first turn the allies bombardment missed all the block houses and his bombers concentrated on some lone panthers, which were destroyed.  My blockhouses did some major damage across the beaches, removing a sherman and hurting Omaha’s landing forces badly.  My German forces at Omaha beach would end up holding their position the entire game and repel all landings.  His U.S. forces came in slow enough he kept to Utah, and when he did have a few on Omaha they managed to land adjacent to my units because he got the positive effect from a fortune card.

I thought hard about bringing a notepad and counting out the times we would roll to see if his fighters were as inconsistant as I thought mine were.  This way I could do the math and say my fighters really did suck wind, but alas I neglected to bring one.  With the way I rolled for some fortune cards, I was kicking myself for not tallying the rolls.  Quite a few times allies rolled a 6 for shore bombardment and his six dice had to hit blockhouses on 1’s.  At least four times when I rolled for the movement phase fortune card, I rolled a 6 and received “fuel shortage” meaning I could only move units from two zones!  This completely crippled my movement from the reinforcement areas and pretty soon Caen was swimming in a huge army of Brits due to my lack of counter attack.  I picked some off where I could, but I was severely slowed.  My reinforcements were coming in quickly and soon the bottom and east side of the map was saturated with zones stacked 8 high.

Around turn 7 Caen was still out of my control, Cherbourg was close to being taken, but St Lo had the bulk of a fueless German front languishing around it.  I realized that it would be difficult for him to swing his U.K. army to take St Lo, while protecting Caen from the two German armies I had massed to the east of it.  The U.S. army that managed to reach Cherbourg was so far removed from St Lo it couldn’t pressure it and I moved Germans towards Cherbourg to prevent any ease of travel south.  The game ended on turn 10 with St Lo still in my control.  I knew I’d win even if I didn’t press for Caen or Cherbourg, but I went for it anyway.

Caen was still contested by the end of turn 10 with Germans and Brits fighting it out on the streets.  Cherbourgs fighter defenses strafed my stack to oblivion, leaving panther left to swing and miss at the defenders… it died in the return fire.  I faced a lot of fighter cover attacking Cherbourg, no one in their right mind would face that volley.  Last turn, I hoped the odds would be with them, they were entirely in his court.  The 1’s popped up everywhere.

So it ended in a German victory by holding St Lo.  Here were some funny occurances due to the cards.

Allies once rolled a 6 for fighter coverage and on a 4+ roll for each fighter would ground it for that turn.  He rolled 8 dice, and at the end only 1 fighter could provide strafing coverage for that turn.  Of course on that turn I also rolled a 6 for my movement and only 2 zones could move so no benefit for me.

The Axis and Allies have a card where artillery can make a targeted attack againsted an enemy unit in the zone adjacent to it.  I used this card and got over 7 shots at allies and managed to take out a few units to include 2 shermans.

I once rolled a 1 for the blockhouses firing to sea and needed to hit on a 5 or less, on the other hand he devastated a unit of tanks when he rolled a 1 for his bombers, allowing them to hit on a 5 or less, and then compounded the pain by using the tactic which allowed his bombers to roll an additional die.

Once we went a few turns with the cards it became pretty easy to know what was coming next and the gameplay accelerated.  Again we had a good time with this game, a few beers, some pizza, and famous tank battles going on in the background!

Played my first D-Day game last Thurday with a work friend.  I usually play Revised/Anniversary/Some new Pacific/Global.  First let me say, it was nice not to have to decide what units to purchase with IPCs.  Well to the battle…

I did a scant bit of research on what the game might involve, glossed over the rules, and printed out the FAQ.  We flipped a coin and I got allies.  I knew that blockhouses were bad because they could pick the unit to remove so I made it a point to try to kick those in the teeth near the Brits so they couldn’t pluck my shermans out of the water.  The ones that did survive to shoot, missed everything.  I had a good UK landing and pushed Caen hard, taking it turn 2.  When placing my airpower I tried putting them in reinforcement zones and cut quick approaches to my stacks.  I’ll say that positioning the strafing helped steer his units, but the ones that walked through the strafing were probably safer, because my planes could not hit the broad side of Caen.

I rushed into Caen so then turned my sights toward St Lo, while trying to clear out units around Cherbourg.  We traded units pretty steadily outside of St Lo and I couldn’t seem to muster my way inside.  I reinforced Caen landing zones once with units to help against reinforcements, but then prioritized capturing St Lo.  An error to almost lose my the game later.  My units near Cherbourg took some heavy losses and I needed to start pushing more US that direction, while focusing on St. Lo.  Reinforcements started massing around Caen and I realized I needed to shift units toward it to either intercept the Germans outside of Caen or to retake it if it was lost.

Turn 8 I took St Lo and flung 3 UK shermans towards Cherbourg that would make it to attack on turn 10 (with other US forces).  I piled aircraft around Caen to protect it to no avail.

Turn 9 my UK forces attack blocks of Germans around Caen and score victories, but Germans still remain.  My attack into Cherbourg is practically obliterated, leaving 5 German units still on the city.  The follow-up US forces combined with the 3 shermans need to clear it turn 10.

Turn 10 two Spitfires decimate 3 Axis units out of a sizeable force that move to attack Caen and UK forces finish off the rest.  The attack on Cherbourg finished the remaining units.

I wish I kept track of my shots taking by fighters and bombers, because their hitrate was horrendous, even by 17% standards.  Bombers are better at needing 3’s, but I am sure their rate fell below 50% in the last few turns.  My UK reinforcement rolls had my last reinforcements hitting the beach on turn 7, while the US finished landing on turn 9.

The game was fun and different, which made it a cool experience.  Next time we’ll try the fortune cards or maybe hit up Guadalcanal.  I think what was a real shocker was having the game only take a few hours, where Anniversary can take much much longer.

Sorry, I thought it was on Axis and Allies D-day.

Well what I was thinking is that Germany gets about 10 in W. Germany so that an invasion of W. Germany is inherently difficult. Then Germany can build them in coastal territories. Perhaps make-your-own and Italy (or Japan) could build/start with some?

Our little group has played four games of D-Day so far and the axis won the first three by holding St. Lo. the fourth game was a narrow allied victory only because we added two more rounds to the game. At the end of ten rounds the axis still held St. Lo as usual. It took the two extra rounds for the allies to get it. We are now looking for ways to vary the game so that it does not play out the same every time. One idea I like is to increase the attack value of the allied airborne units to two. I am even thinking of having the two sides place their own units where they will for the starting setup. I would like to vary the unit types as well. We now have added many new types of units since this game was printed. This might require setting up a D-12 system.

I think the Germans were a different color too. One set was dark black and other was i little lighter in black. Got 2 different blockhouse colors. Man I was pissed when bought 2nd set. I needed more infrantry for Uk and Germany for IL’s WW2 game that starts with 600 pieces. I try not to use chips if I can. Ended up buying like 2000 pieces of each kind of piece on e bay couple years ago. because I also needed Russian infrantry and tanks. That was nice got like 100 infrantry for each country and all the tanks you needed and ships. Just waiting for Coach and FMG to come up with the L crusiars, L AC, tankers,air transporters for game with the added pieces. also pacific sold Japan as red as well but use them for neutrals do to needed ships. painted rest.

Welcome, Sarge85!

In that situation, the Allies would win.  They need to control all three cities at the end of two consecutive turns.

No it was more of a straight up dumb-luck type of thing you know?

@chuliwe576:

Hello world!!!

Welcome to the forums chuliwe576 but you shouldn’t post here

@cminke:

germans

Yes, it is a much easier game for the Germans.  And he does not have to worry about the “Landing” and Air power rules etc…

Yes, they do.  Also, note the starting Allied paratroopers in a few of the zones.

How many people have doubts about the theory?  What are your doubts and questions?  What doesnt add up?

This is the place to put these thoughts and inquiries.  You can also respond to some of the questions.

I have a&a D Day for more than 7 months . It looks nice, however We have  failed to defeat Germany. I saw some tactics here on the forum, but could somebody tell me any clear and precise strategy for allies, step by step. How to defeat Germans?

I have aa50 and have played pac40. I still like dday and learned how to play on dday. Dday is a great beginners game and is still a good game to play everynow and again.

@Deadeye:

In thinking about it some more I think I understand where you are coming from.  You are saying German reinforcements are subject to strafing, Allied units are not.  And I suppose that is accurate to a very limited extent.

Yes, that is my point.

Conversely, the Allies will have a tough time jamming 24 reinforcements in one turn so they have their own inherent difficulties in bring in that many units.

Yes but you have eliminated the highest values which does not bring the Allies up against ‘clogged beaches’ with a big roll (over 7) as often as it does Axis up against air power with a small roll (less than .)

Allies and Axis roll the same thing for reinforcements with the OOB rules.  They roll the same thing with this change.  It does not result in a net advantage to either side.  What it does do is remove a wide statistical variance for a smaller one, reducing the factor chance plays in the fate of the game which conversely increases the factor strategy plays in the fate of the game.

Yes. It does. I am incorrect on any change in the difference between results.

@c64:

e) The most probable difference between the two sides is 1 unit (!) regardless of the method.

I’m glad you’ve found a rule that works for you. I guess I’m just a lot more averse to house rules than I thought.

@conanthelibrarian:

While I’m on here, any other of the smaller AA games (like battle of the bulge) that you guys recommend?  Im playing this with my 8 year old, and I like that he can understand and play with me.

Thanks alot.

@Krieghund:

D-Day is the easiest A&A game of all.  Battle of the Bulge and Guadalcanal are a little bit more involved.  However, if your son can handle D-Day, maybe he can handle one of those as well.  I think I’d try Bulge before Guadalcanal.  If you do, let him be the Germans, as it’s harder to play the Allies in that game.

I’d agree with this. Looking at the rules it might seem Guadalcanal is ‘simpler’ but you have to make many more “if I do this what will my opponent do,” decisions a lot faster and GCNL eliminates the reinforcement charts creating a daunting set of decisions regarding reinforcements.

If you are also new to BOTB playing the Allies will be a good handicap for you as it is tougher to play the Allies and will be easier and more interesting for him as the Axis on the attack.

I’d wait till you’re bored with D-Day though.

After repeated attempts, I agree with your 90% chance for Axis. 5 games, 5 Axis victories. I will try the extra bombers. Maybe have the airborne always attack at 2 would help as well. One thing I tried last time (still resulted in Axis victory) is instead of the VC controlled if there is only one side there, the VC is controlled by the last side to occupy the space. e.g.- UK attacks Caen, destroys all Germans. They now control Caen EVEN IF GERMANS REATTACK. That way the Allies just need to capture all 3 and then prevent them from being recaptured. Otherwise, the Allies must eliminate every German unit in the game to achieve victory. Unless I’m misunderstanding the rules???

Consider yourself lucky because as you can see, I’d say about 3/4’s of the games did not have the correct amount.

Welcome, alk3m1st!

The answer to this question, and many others, can be found in the FAQ.  Enjoy the game, and please let us know if you have more questions!