Yes i made a movie about it:
With the UK fleet still alive and with the factory in Egypt i start buying subs to start convoying Italy and combined with bombers to industrial bomb germany.
I do this because US goes in a KJF so except for some subs and bombers no land units are built in the atlantic
@nolimit well we never play online actually. But we can record our next match. Do you post games online?
@nolimit well it’s a very limited number of attacks so not that ambituous. Combining the Med and the Pac fleet, together wirh some subs even gives you a good chance of Tarznto in the 2nd or 3rd turn.
The luftwaffe can come and get the fleet but at a high cost.
Hello,
I made a video about a strategy built around UK Europe. In the video i discuss the UK1 move and it is an answer to the old question wether or not there is an alternative to Taranto. It’s a bit like the Gibastion move but not entirely.
We play OOB tabletop without bid.
I’m not claiming it to be thé best move and off course it depends on what Germany buys G1, but i might give the Axis (especially italy) something to think about.
@alan-adair look at the ones of General Handgrenade or Young Grasshopper
@alan-adair no you can online built major complexes in territories you own from the start
@andrewaagamer yes my bad i miscalculated. Then how can you prevent hawaii from falling if not a KJF?
@squirecam
You can’t end your turn with a Japanese fleet within 2 spaces of mainland US when not at war. Hawaii is 2 spaces to mainland US so you can’t post your fleet around hawai J1.
@thedesertfox
So what do you suggest the US does?
A: gather around Hawaii and fight till death
B: withdraw to San Francisco and built up for a KJF?
@crockett36 What you are trying to point out is that you try to achieve victory in the Pacific by not losing.
You keep the IJN busy in the area around Wake en Sz6 so they can’t boost their income and thus in the long run the Allies in the pacific will outproduce them.
Correct me if i’m wrong.
@crockett36 Haha cheers:p I have never used it though. Did you and with what succes?
@crockett36 Hi, I was thinking about the same thing:
36 IPC: ONE carrier + TWO fighters in offense: 2 dices on a 3 with the possibility to take a hit on the carrier (in the case you have a place for fighters to land
36 IPC: THREE cruisers in offense: 3 dices on 3.
==> on offense the cruisers fare better
On defense of course the carrier and fighters fare better but you have to be on your guard for landing space when the carriers take a hit.
And off course the cruisers provide the bombards as well.
Bottom line is i think there is potential for cruiser use.
@marshmallowofwar
Marsh, what do you do then on UK1 if i may ask?
And what do you buy?
@luftwaffles41
Hi! When you attack Russia G2 and go to Moscow via the southern route (Ukrain), the time you get to Moscow the flow of UK troops hasn’t really started yet i would think. And maybe a fall of India will divert UK’s attention to defending the Middle East?
@squirecam Losing a fighter to the BB has less far reaching consequences than losing your UK fleet and thus the Med.
Yes off course going for Taranto can be the best choice, but you have to be prepared for a failure. And in the case of 10% diced battle (loss) the game is practicly over before it even begun.
@squirecam My friends and i play OOB, so without the bid. it’s 85% i think but that means in 15% you’ll get diced which is not a whole lot and it should probably be done, but if possible battles like these should be avoided.
That is exactly what i mean. First priority is defending. An early and easy victory is very rare and can backfire easily.
That’s why on UK1 i built all in London, except 01 Mec in SA and “occupy” Persia. A factory on UK2 (depending of course on what Ger and Japan do) and slow/fast movers combo from SA. I keep my Indian fighters in India and built all inf with India, trying to buy as much time as i can. The role of UK is not to defeat Axis but delaying the defeat of Moscow/India so US can become large.
@taamvan The longer i play this game, the more i’m convinced that the allies have the most chance of winning when they’re not defeated.
Explaination: when allies try to make a push or get diced in an attack at sea or air , they are doomed. When they lose a key city like Egypt, Moscow or India too cheap, they are doomed.
Taranto is a 80 or 90% win for allies but when you get diced things will look grimm. That’s why as Allies you must avoid those kind of battles and force the Axis player to take those risky moves on you.
In that perspective UK should primarily focus on defense of those key locations, especcially in the early game.
@taamvan The problem with Gibastion is that sooner or later you still need to attack or deal with the italian fleet, in a kind of Taranto 2.0, and in the mean time you can’t focus on helping Russia bc you have to check and balance the Italian navy. There really is no good answer bc every strategy has its pro’s and con’s.
One thing is certain: UK1 built 95% -100% on London. Anything else is asking for troubles.