Getting extra pieces?

@valthonis:

I hope it’s an unjustified fear, but I started thinking about all the Japan Tactical Bomber responses and the whole setup cards not being available until Feb.

It didn’t make sense, they know specifically what is wrong with the setup cards, so issuing new ones shouldn’t be a big deal.  What concerns me is that they’ve been “in touch” with the game deal on how to handle the Japan Tactical Bomber issue.

So…is it wrong to think there is the possibility of WotC simply redoing the Japan layout to use fewer tactical bombers and thus remove the shortage issue without having to make more?

IE adapt the game to the shortage to eliminate the shortage.

That is a very viable option which I have not thought of before. I just sent them an email to see how the investigation is going about the Japanese tactical bombers and told them I hope it turns out favorable to the fans that have already purchased the game. For now I am using the yellow Japanese fighters from the MB version as Japanese tactical bombers in AAP40.

@skinny1:

I just sent them an email to see how the investigation is going about the Japanese tactical bombers and told them I hope it turns out favorable to the fans that have already purchased the game. For now I am using the yellow Japanese fighters from the MB version as Japanese tactical bombers in AAP40.

I think this fits the definition of low luck

@Bizarro:

@skinny1:

I just sent them an email to see how the investigation is going about the Japanese tactical bombers and told them I hope it turns out favorable to the fans that have already purchased the game. For now I am using the yellow Japanese fighters from the MB version as Japanese tactical bombers in AAP40.

I think this fits the definition of low luck

Here is the response that I got from WotC:

We do not yet have an update regarding this issue, but we are aware of the fans’ concerns and are still investigating our options. We very much appreciate your patience in this matter and we assure you that when more information is available, we will get it to the public.

To revamp an old topic….* fingers crossed *

_Dear,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding Axis and allies Pacific. At this
time we are unable to answer your question as we are awaiting a reply
from our American office regarding the possible solutions.

We have stored your e-mail and will definitely get back to you but we
wanted to let you know that we aren’t ignoring your call. We take high
pride in our products and want to make sure we can accommodate you as
soon as possible.

Kind Regards,

Joery Van Nevel

WPN Support Coordinator
Distributor Markets
Wizards of the Coast Europe

–—Original Message-----
From: *
Sent: donderdag 21 januari 2010 12:57
To: BRU custserv
Subject: Battleboard Axis & allies Pac40 and other concerns

Dear sir/madam,

recently I bought “Axis and Allies, Pacific 1940.”
I have stumbled upon several errors in the game, that make playing it a
lot harder. While browsing the internet, it turns out I am not the only
one facing these issues, and that Wizards of the Coast is able to solve
these issues.

With this mail I would like to request you to:

• Send me a new battleboard. The included battleboard is that of a
  previous Axis and Allies version.
• Elaborate on the Japanese TAC bomber issues. As it turns out, there
  are not enough units for this type to decently play the game. I am not
  the only one expressing my concerns about this (apart from the various
  typos, the misprints on the setup cards of ANZAC and USA etc), and I
  hope Wizards of the Coast finds a decent way to solve this problem for
  their fan base.

The battleboard can be sent to the following adress:

I hope you will take these concerns in consideration, and would
appreciate it very much if your company would decide to send out more
units to their loyal fans.

Kind regards,

***_

I whole heartedly believe that WotC will simply adjust the setup cards to leave an extra unit or two.  That way it doesn’t cost them more than the incorrect setup cards they’re already planning to send out.

I think there’s virtually zero chance they will adjust the setup. They will eventually make 6 more Japanese TACs available. Maybe including them in E40 and sending them to those who ask. However, they won’t be manufactured until they make the TACs for Europe, if they haven’t made those yet.

@moompix:

I think there’s virtually zero chance they will adjust the setup. They will eventually make 6 more Japanese TACs available. Maybe including them in E40 and sending them to those who ask. However, they won’t be manufactured until they make the TACs for Europe, if they haven’t made those yet.

Why couldn’t WotC send them out with the new battle strip in February when they said the battle strip will be sent? I would much rather prefer that than wait until AAE40 is released. I think it would be a better decision to send them sooner than later to keep the fan base happy.

@moompix:

I think there’s virtually zero chance they will adjust the setup. They will eventually make 6 more Japanese TACs available. Maybe including them in E40 and sending them to those who ask. However, they won’t be manufactured until they make the TACs for Europe, if they haven’t made those yet.

You think or you hope?
I mean from a WotC business point of view which makes more sense to them?  Reprint setup cards and send out more units or reprint setup cards?  Yes you can argue “What about the fans!?”.  I highly doubt they really care.  At the end of the day if their are enough pieces to play the game and a decent ruleset, people will play.

They certainly won’t be including any extra japan tac bombers in AAE40, wouldn’t make any sense.  Sure for those that bought AAP40 and have need of more units perhaps, but not everyone is going to own both and it would be a waste of money for them to include stuff in a game for a different game.

@valthonis:

You think or you hope?
I mean from a WotC business point of view which makes more sense to them?  Reprint setup cards and send out more units or reprint setup cards?

I think.

I haven’t heard anything about them sending out new setup cards. I’ve heard of new Battle Boards.

@skinny1:

Why couldn’t WotC send them out with the new battle strip in February when they said the battle strip will be sent? I would much rather prefer that than wait until AAE40 is released. I think it would be a better decision to send them sooner than later to keep the fan base happy.

The cost of making the Japanese TACs, would be a lot higher than if they wait and make them when they were planing to make others anyway. The ideal time to make them would be when they do a second print run of this game, if they were planing to or needed to. Second best time would be when they make the TACs for Europe.

Just give up like we did and paint the anzac tac bombers white, use them on the ground.  keep the originals for the carriers.

I called them (always call IMO) and i was sent an entire new set of jap airplanes.

@Brain:

@Battlingmaxo:

Now damged CV BB units with smoke/flames would have been sweet.

Battleship pieces with red pegs should do the trick :-D

!!!

D@@D!

That’s not a half bad idear!

I’ve emailed them as well, regarding the tacky bombers, rulebook, battle strip and box lids.

I do believe the jap mech infantry is in short supply, but i was able to make do. For the most part, I use MI in Asia and they keep dying, so the pile keeps replenishing. But I dont let planes die, so the tacky bombers are a real problem, especially considering how many fronts you fight on in Asia. One time I actually lost track of what that unreferenced stack of tacky bombers poker chips represented. I was a deer-in-the-headlights on that one.

I’ve never used the battlestrip, so I dont care that much but I wanted to add it as kindling in the email to illustrate the multitude of documented issues in the hopes that they will do the right thing.

I definitely want an updated rulebook, not just a revised home printout or an original flawed book with errata leaflets papering the pages.

I told them I dont need new boxes, but I at least need new stickers to overlay on the existing boxes. This issue is more critical than all the rest.

I cant speak for everyone. But to me, paying $75 for an in-print game is on the high end. Enough to where I would expect a little catering to if unquestionable mistakes are made. This isn’t monopoly, and I would not want to cannibalize another game for pieces even if I had one to pillage (I have only A&A 2004 and Pacific 1940). At the very least, I’d like the option to purchase additional pieces and updated materials. I could go to ebay and buy extra pieces off old games. But correct me if Im wrong, tacky bombers are a new unit, yes?

As I said, this isn’t monopoly. The game is very complex and therefore mistakes will make it past publishing. I understand that and I do love the game, but it seems that too many mistakes have been made. Allowing a swarm of scrambled planes to defeat an incoming navy is probably an unforeseeable mistake, but not including enough pieces to actually commence combat and misprinting the setup rules seems a touch much.

i agree with all your anti wizards opinions except the scrambled planes issue which is now the latest cause running through the forums.  why can’t 600 SBDs take out a navy?

I’ve seen several times a mention of incorrect unit setup on the stock box lids, and that it’s referenced in the errata, but I cant find any mention of it. Can someone tell me what is wrong and how they know it’s wrong? Thanks in advance.

NM, I must have looked it over 4 times and never saw it, but then of course as soon as I post up, I see it.

@soul42:

I called them (always call IMO) and i was sent an entire new set of jap airplanes.

seriously?  why is nobody else here acknowledging this post?

@Stoney229:

@soul42:

I called them (always call IMO) and i was sent an entire new set of jap airplanes.

seriously?  why is nobody else here acknowledging this post?

I figured he was one of the “early birds” who got their request in weeks ago before the bean counters put their foot down and said “no more free units: it’ll cost this company tens of dollars”.

I’ll definately e-mail them tomorrow. I’ll wait until I get the script response, then I’ll call them. I like everybody else feel there’s no reason to pay this price, for a game with this many errors. Like some have said, any game of this calibur will have its errors, but WOW. I’ve set the game up once so therefore I didn’t even think how big of a problem this is. I’ve been a long time WotC fan from Magic, to Forgotten Realms novels, to D&D in general. And I’ve read so many good things about TripleA that I bought 1942. I then bought P1940 after loving 1942 so much, and learning that P1940 will combine with E1940 upon its release and I was sold. I’ll post here the responses I get to the e-mail(s) and if necessary the phone call(s). This is a fantastic website btw.

As I got my Pacific game on Thursday and set it up on the weekend, I must ask a (maybe) stupid question.

Whats going on here. 6 tacs are not much I agree, but you “only” need 5 (japanese) for Setup - so you could either buy turn 1 or split one group.

I did not play, but experience with AA games show that you have to expect losses (especially in carrier groups), so you should be able to get along with the pieces provided.

I agree 8 would have been better, but it will be ok ;)

On the contrary I think we got too many units for soem - teh Aussies and Kiwis never had BBs and CV (until the very) end, so why so much grey pieces  :evil: :D

Overall I think there is a strange lack of garrisons on the map. - ;)

japan seems the ONLY nation that is war ready - and with this setup I doubt many BIG ships will be bought…

I consider even a J1/J2 attack on the US - going for Hawaii - then south to Australia early ;)