@Wild2000:
In response to F_alk, you are correct, you can easily find a god that will theoretically reward you for living the lifestyle it desires. The question becomes, does this god of your choosing actually have the power to reward? If it does, then I have no debate with you. It is all between you and your god.
Well, if you ask me how i can tell wether my god can reward me or not… i bet you can enlighten me on that and give the criteria a god has to meet to be powerful enough to reward in the afterlife.
How can you doubt my god can, but be sure of yours?
I know some of you believe that if there is an afterlife, then all that matters is that I lead a good life. I have even read in other threads someone saying that if there is a god, then hopefully it will look at my life and judge me on that. However, this is a risky gamble.
But if they are right, then what have I lost? I still lead a good life and would be judged the same way they are. So in a sense, I am covered under both scenarios, whereas they are gambling. I have no problem with anyone willing to take that risk. But in the end, what am I out?
No, there is a small difference. I will come to that later.
To remember then:
People judge you not only by your deeds but also by your reasons.
I do not understand why I am a potential murderer. The ONLY way I would do something like this is if God revealed Himself to me is some profound matter. Everything that I have read and learned about God would not make me believe that something like this would never happen.
When you would kill because of an order, without thinking further, then i call that potential murderer.
I know this sounds harsh, and don’t want to go too far off-topic, but just think of the following:
If you grew up learning that it’s not “god” who is supreme, but all that matters is your “race” and its benefits, and the “voice of your race”, personified by whoever, says that the “others” are like plague and have to be extinguished… would you go and kill the others, because the “voice” said so?
For the later point:
You say that ther is a chance where you would stop thinking for yourself and would do whatever you are told to do.
Also, sorry but, I have never heard of any woman claiming she aborted an unborn baby because god told her to do it. Before I made any judgments about her decision, I would want to know who her god was first.
What does that matter, if it was Allah, Jahwe, Zeus, Thor, Rama, Cuetzacotl or whatever…. if it is her god, then you are not to debate with her (as you said above yourself).
But now to my main point:
@Wild2000:
But I do not think it should matter what it is God is asking me to do. I do not believe that I am in a position to question Him. If God asked me to do anything, I would do it. That’s what following God means. It does not mean that I can pick and choose what I think I should do.
@Yanny:
So, in other words, you are a willing slave to God.
So, do you think you have something like a free will? It doesn’t sound like that, because you would throw it away under certain circumstances. Even if you do “good”, because your “god wants you to do so”, then you still don’t do good because you want it from your own.
Your humanity is then defined only by your god, if your god was different, you would behave different.
And people ducking to more powerful beings are not an example of people i respect deeply, no matter how much good they do doing that. There are too many examples in hisotry that show that this kind of behavior can lead to most inhuman behavior.
To cut it very short: From what you have written here, i suppose that you, if your were born in germany in 1929, would have taken up the gun even in the last minute.
