Should Japan re-arm?

the US has more nukes, russia is a bigger country

How did they go down the tubes?

Yah, I didn’t get that either. :)

The Navy Seals used to be the elite, the guys you call on when you want someone dead. They were the best trained and geared troops in the world. Offically, they did not exist. However, after widespread publicity, they were proven to exist. There old job was to do the dirty work, now that job is in the hands of Delta Force.

The Navy Seals really have no job in the modern army anymore. The Deltas kill people. The Rangers paint targets for smartbombs, and can hold their ground in a fight. The Seals however, they aren’t trained to fight a war. They are trained to go in, complete their objective, and get out. Delta does that now.

Uh no… the use of Navy SEALs is today just as great. Guerilla warfare, counter insurgencies, and covert operations are largely handled by SEALs… This is very important in modern “wars.” I’m sure SEAL team members would not like to hear their training and importance downgraded… :-?

I’m gonna have to agree with TG on this one. :P

The SEALS are definetely not as irrelevant as you make them out to be. Sure, I’ll agree that the Delta Force plays a primary role in certain operations, but neither the Rangers nor the Delta Force even come remotely close to possessing the aquatic expertise that the SEALS do. The SEALS can operate in pretty much any environment, unlike the other Spec-Ops who are usually dropped by plane in mass-quantities.

As far as I know, the SEALS were never meant to wage a small war on their own. In fact, I just talked to someone I know who was a Green-Beret. He said that the Rangers’ job is to go from Point A to Point B and kill everything in between. Whereas, SEALS have a primary objective they need to complete, and they do it in the most efficient way possible. (Hence the smaller operational teams that they use.)

I’m almost certain that the media glamorizing this outfit of Special Forces has absolutely no bearing on their efficiency or usefullness during war-time. :-?

Hell, theres probably some other force out there more elite than Delta that we’ve yet to learn about.

That’s an interesting point you bring up. Anybody read Rainbow Six by Tom Clancy?

I think that Japan shoudl rearm if they feel that it is needed.

I could care less if Japan re-arms or not. It’s not like N. Korea has the cojones to do anything with their nukes anyway, they’re just playing the International globalization market and are looking for a quick buck. Seeing money thrown around in front of my face would probably make me want some too.

Besides, it’s not that the US or UN care incredibly about N. Korea anyhow.
Look at the situation:

On one side, Iraq and Iran > Lying, scheming, and US funded from the cold war. :-?

On the other side, N. Korea jumping up in the middle of the UN assembly, waving frantically, yelling “WE HAVE NUKES”… but get hushed down as Bush climbes the podium for yet another “DEATH TO HUSSEIN” rant.

Why is the US and UN so adament at seeing Iraq go down? It can’t have to do with that the Bush family holds stocks in an oil company…
NAAAAAAH! :roll:

This world is driven by money, money comes from manufacturing, selling, and REFINING… Therefore, there’s money in Iraq, and the US wants it… BAD. Bad enough to start a war, terrorism’s just the reason. (A damn good reason too :wink: )

I’m almost certain that the media glamorizing this outfit of Special Forces has absolutely no bearing on their efficiency or usefullness during war-time.

Absolutely correct.

i don’t know about that YB.
Even the US forces have been giving our troops quite a few medals lately. Particularly our sniper teams. From what i’ve heard we’ve been distinguishing ourselves quite well, particularly in operation harpoon et al.

Canadian sketch comedy shows constantly make fun of how underfunded their military is.

Hahaha, you mean the rubber tugboat with a pea-shooter labeled the Pride and Joy of the Canadian Navy? :wink:

I think you can watch “this hour has 22 minutes” on bravo

Rainbow Six is the only Jack Ryan book I haven’t read. I hear the plot sucks, couple of envirmentalists trying to take over the world for animals. But the idea of a team of international Special Forces does sound interesting. Nato should think of it.

Don’t get me wrong, the SEALs do still operate, and are given very special missions. And yes, when we need to do something off the water, the SEALs are there. But the SEALs mission now is not as widespread as it was 15 years ago. Delta Force does a large part of the old SEAL work.

Congrats on 2000 post! 8)

not yet, yanny has 1999

When he responds to me that is.

@Yanny:

Rainbow Six is the only Jack Ryan book I haven’t read. I hear the plot sucks, couple of envirmentalists trying to take over the world for animals. But the idea of a team of international Special Forces does sound interesting. Nato should think of it.

Don’t get me wrong, the SEALs do still operate, and are given very special missions. And yes, when we need to do something off the water, the SEALs are there. But the SEALs mission now is not as widespread as it was 15 years ago. Delta Force does a large part of the old SEAL work.

I saw a commercial for some new Playstation 2 game about the SEALs, what is your opinion on that?

US Special Forces are needed all across the world. You see more of Delta Force in the Middle East, N. Africa, ect, while the SEALs are seen more in South and Central America. It’s more of a matter of preference really.

Hey, I found out something interesting the other day. Does anyone remember way back in 1999, when we (Seattle) hosted the WTO convention?

Well, while all those tree-hugging hippies were rioting in their turtle suits, the Delta Force was actually there a week ahead of them to scout out any terrorist problems in order to protect President Clinton. The Delta Force took up residence in the Regrade Motel while they were on assignment. Apparently, a week before that, border officials caught Ahmed Rassam at the Canadian border. The funny part is, they found out that he had reservations a week before the WTO convention at a certain hotel…the Regrade. :lol: