Do fighters respond to the bombers when they strategic bomb? HELP now plse!!

axis_roll is right, however i posted a topic on the reverse situation if you were interested to know that answer…

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@gamerman01:

@Bardoly:

The only 1 tech applied per unit is a really good thought, but then are you saying that one’s long range jet fighters could only choose 1 of the two techs with which to be upgraded each turn?  One’s infantry could only be upgraded by 1 tech (improved artillery, paratroopers, or mechanized infantry)?  One’s aa guns could only be regular aa with rockets or radar aa, but not both in the same round of play?

Good point.  I’ll let the guy with the idea speak up, but I think that yes, this is doable.  It would be a house rule, anyway, so the players could make these things out.

My answer would be that while Long Range is definitely quite game-changing, is shouldn’t necessarily preclude other techs, but I definitely agree that if an air transport (Oops, I meant “bomber”.   :-P) is loaded with troops, I really don’t think that it could also be loaded down with extra bombs at the same time, so I WOULD go for saying that one must choose whether an individual bomber is a Heavy bomber or a Paratrooping bomber each turn.

Totally agree.  Heavy bombing paratroopers is over the top, and how could they be loaded with both anyway?

Exactly!  But Long Range Heavys or Long Range Paratrooping bombers I would definitely allow.

Another possibility for HBs which SBR  is that they only hit on 1-4 which means they max at 8.  I’m sure not all bombs hit their targets.  Also consider capping the total damage at 1-1.5 the value of the territory.

After further consideration I no longer feel the fighter escort/interceptor rule needs any fine tuning. In my previous posts I expressed the view that the rule nerfed strategic bombing too much but I’ve since changed my mind. After all, bombing raids over inland German targets without escorts was near suicidal, especially during the daylight. It wasn’t until the Allies had deployed long range escort fighters and had outnumbered the defending Luftwaffe aircraft, that the Allies were able to conduct bombing missions without terrible loses. The same is true with the fighter escort/interceptor rule as it stands now and it should stay that way.

I almost always buy a bomber a round for Germany starting turn 2.  They are great for threatening Moscow, even when in Germany, threatening allied fleets, and if they got nothing else to do I do enjoy bombing Brittan.

Its the allies I hate buying them for, even though they are still incredibly useful, every bomber UK buys is one less cruiser or transport.  You must be very careful not to ‘overbuy’ bombers as the allies.

@gamerman01:

@naturesprank:

Yeah, gamerman, I am aware of that most recent update. We don’t use it, since it negates much of the fun of getting HBs in the first place and we have been playing with the published rules for over a year. My playing group doesn’t always like to implement the updated rules errata that we come across. You shouldn’t need to access forums like these to play the game, so we usually use the OOB rules unless there is a conflict or complete misunderstanding.

Yeah, right on.

Unfortunately, there are quite a few ambiguities in the rulebook.  I have had to ask several different rules questions.  If you guys can’t agree on a rule, just post your question in the FAQ and errata thread under AA50, and you’ll have an answer in no time.  Probably not a bad idea to scan through that thread and see the answers to lots of questions…

True on all counts, and we have used that resource numerous times. Especially as pertains to subs, the OOB rules are very vague.

Even using the updated best-of 2 dice rule for HBs, the Americans can send a lot of heat toward the Rome, Berlin and Karelia ICs when not doing huge dmg to ITA or GER fleets. It’s nice to know that you will probably (89% on 2 HB) roll a minimum of 3 per HB during SBRs after risking them to AA. It might not seem like enough, but we seem to agree that the best early pressure US can exert on Ger is via SBR.  And getting HBs definitely helps with that. It, along with LR air, seem to have the biggest impact on our games.

Thanks Krieghund.

Given the fact that I am already integrating the FAQ in the translated manual I will do the update as you suggest!

@tin_snips:

you could, of course, look at it from the perspective of each side. whichever side controls the oceans, wins the game haha  :-D

glad we agree on that note  :lol: