China Inf Placement Question

@tvarberg said in China - placing new infantry:

@panther said in China - placing new infantry:

Every power that will not be attacked and that maximizes (or at least tries to maximize) their IPC gains and unit builts will be able to achieve huge amounts of units

Yes, you are very right.
My point is just that the China rules to me are very unclear (in terms of Mobilize New Units)
And that you can just over come the “max three or more rule” by moving China’s units and make space for the new units.

Thought I misunderstood the rules, but seems like it’s not the case because basically we are on the same page in terms of the rules I can see.

You are correct. As long as there are no units in a Chinese territory, they can place up to 3 units there during mobilization. So if you move all units out of a territory, you can then place your new units there, and repeat this ad-nauseum.

It’s not overpowered though as Chinese units can not leave China, so if this is happening chances are Japan is ignoring China anyway (as they can easily go around and ignore it). So go ahead a load up those infantry in China. If they are being completely ignored by Japan (I frequently ignore China as Japan), they’ll sit there, completely useless.

@slo:

how do you keep track of the NO’s, and how do you keep track of the income from them, do you include it on the IPC chart?

In the 1941 setup for example, the USA gets 40 ipc….they also have automatically completed a NO bye controlling the usa…so would you mark 40 or 45 om the ipc chart?

The IPC chart is a tool to help determine one’s IPCs they will collect at the end of their turn.  These are always in play (part of the base rules).  National Objectives are an optional rule, and are not tracked via the IPC chart.  You simply determine which NO bonus you have achieved and add those extra IPCs to your IPCs from the chart to get your IPCs awarded/collected at turns end.  Add this to whatever unspent IPCs that you have remaining, and now you know your total you can spend the next turn.

@axis_roll:

One of the items in our house rules for AA50 (The Chicago Rules) is:

3)  Restricted Dardenelles straight:  Bulgaria is the only territory accessible via transport(s) in sz16

So the Sea zone is still open to ships, but only land accessible to Bulgaria.  Doesn’t remove the sea zone from play, but eliminates the Med drops into Caucasus and/or Ukraine

This is exactly as it should be…  :-D

Welcome, Grenland!

You can’t load transports in a hostile sea zone.  You can read this under the transports unit description on the last page of the rules.

@Krieghund:

It’s true for all countries.  However, if you lose your capital, you also lose any unplaced units that you may still have in the mobilization zone.

For chineses, there’s not a thing called “capital”  :-D. You can “save” the non-placed inf until end of days, even if all the freak China is taken by axis

Bugs, give me more bugs …  :lol:

Also note that your british fighters dont get to shoot at the german sub at all, as you are not bringing a destroyer along with you.

OK, so this whole debate arises from the rule that tells you to place one of your control markers under your AA gun if you move it into a territory controlled by a friendly power, correct?  There is no corresponding rule that says that if I capture your AA gun when I capture your territory you should place one of your control markers under it.  So, we have one fairly rare circumstance when I can capture your gun when it has your marker (in your ally’s territory) and another far more common one when I can capture your gun when it doesn’t have your marker (in your territory).  In neither case am I directed to retain the existing marker or place a new one.

In addition, the rules indicate that if you or your ally recapture the territory and AA gun, the ownership of both goes to the capturing power, or to original owner of the territory if it’s liberated.  No mention is made of returning the AA gun to its original owner.

Doesn’t that indicate that I get to keep the AA gun completely free of any strings tying it back to you?  And wouldn’t that include technology?

cool…thats what we thought “sounded fair…and right”.