The Next Super Power!

GZ, you gotta neat the quote up!

China and India have gone to war before.

Most Candaians live within a few dozwn miles of the border. In one day of advancing we would control slmost all the major population centers.

I made that same point re: Canada in another string.

China and India have gone to war before.

Over what?

Taken as a whole, the European Union is already a superpower. Europe statistics compare fairly well, though maybe not as strong in GNP or Per Capita Income as they do in America.

Country Population GDP Tax Revenue Military Spending

USA 278,058,881 $9.963 trillion $1.828 trillion $276.7 billion
European Union 378,714,991 $8.478 trillion $3.006 trillion $165.677 billion

In the next fifteen years, if Western Europe properly invests in the development of Eastern Europe, maybe… 5-8% each year, a combined Europe would become a very powerful superpower.

If unified defense and foreign policies join unified economic policies within the EU by 2017 then the EU would have:

Country Population GDP Tax Revenue Military Spending
EU 483,714,991 $10.828 trillion $3.789 trillion $208.8 billion

(data taken from http://www.geocities.com/muffins4brains/EUsuperpower.html)

With economic growth, the United States would not be far behind and might surpass Europe by reaching the $11 trillion mark by 2017 if we invest in current productivity in future growth. This still leaves open the possibility of a Chinese or Indian Superpower across the Pacific Ocean.

The funny part is that we Americans spend more on our military than the next 20 biggest powers combined.

Is anyone really surprised that we can conquer any country in the world?

Yea, but with nukes, watcha gonna do about it? :-?

@Deviant:Scripter:

The funny part is that we Americans spend more on our military than the next 20 biggest powers combined.

Is anyone really surprised that we can conquer any country in the world?

but not every country in the world…

@GeZe:

@Deviant:Scripter:

The funny part is that we Americans spend more on our military than the next 20 biggest powers combined.

Is anyone really surprised that we can conquer any country in the world?

but not every country in the world…

…?

@Deviant:Scripter:

@GeZe:

@Deviant:Scripter:

The funny part is that we Americans spend more on our military than the next 20 biggest powers combined.

Is anyone really surprised that we can conquer any country in the world?

but not every country in the world…

…?

just ignore what I said

Ok. But history has shown that all empires and great powers rise and fall. The question that remains is: how long does the United States have before that happens?

In a modern world… probably never. There is no way I can see this happening… especially with it’s strides in economy, wealth (both material and natural), and government. US practically has no such disadvantages that could lead to its downfall in the future. Same goes with most of the stable countries in the world (France, Germany, Canada, ect)

Remember quotes like these, TG before you make such a claim, “The sun never sets on the British Empire”. The British empire is long gone and it was extremely powerful. No power every sees its downfall, it just simply happens and it will most likely happen to America. It might be gradually like the Roman Empire, or it might be within the span of 50 years like Germany.

Ask yourself, “Why did the British Empire fall?” The fact is that, it is purely illogical for a country of it’s size to amass such a huge empire. Also after the anti-colonial movement following WWII, Britain’s fate was set. Under these conditions, I would have to assume that the US would have to fragment into many different countries (I have dips on the Communist California), in order to achieve this affect - very unlikely. Even today, Britain has to rely on imports mainly to survive (food stuffs, raw materials). The US has yet to exhaust its wealth in resources (as I mentioned early), and probably never will. That it why I did not put Britain (or Japan) in my equation of stable countries. Their flaw is that they are much too dependent on other countries for even basic necessitates. Also, has the UK completely faded? No! The UK still remains an economic powerhouse, with a high per capita income and GDP. It is unconceivable to think that Britain has clearly seen its days. As for the Roman Empire, that Empire had neither the economic system nor the republican, government system backed up by sound legal codes. Also the Roman Empire was built on conquest, shares none of that it common with the latter (except in the case of the Civil War). There is absolutely no way, short of an act of God that would lead to US’s downfall. That said, certainly US is at its peak and will begin to lose some of its luster (as when the World Bank predicts that China’s GDP will surpass US’s in 2020). However, that won’t mean that the US will remain a very powerful country and certainly among the world’s superpowers.

if there is a nother world war then the US loses, then it will not be a super power

Hmmm… it’ll be pretty hard to defeat a country like the US in the event of a World War… again, there is absolutely no evidence to presuppose this :o

@TG:

Hmmm… it’ll be pretty hard to defeat a country like the US in the event of a World War… again,

I think the US will lose their superpower status by growing decadent out of ignorance out of arrogance…
just my two cents, but that usually is the way superpowers fell in history. Maybe in the last breaths a war by emerging other powers helped to speed up the “falling down process”, but i don’t think that a war is needed.

I am just wondering… do you have any hard evidence to support this statement? :o

the brits ignored india

@TG:

I am just wondering… do you have any hard evidence to support this statement? :o

geez TG.
F_alk prefaced everything with “i think” and “my two cents”. That’s the best “this is my opinion sign” on the planet. He didn’t cite facts, so i think that he’s prolly somewhat immune from having to supply hard evidence.
To be honest, although i do not entirely agree with him, i definitely agree that much of what he says has a lot of merit. IMO, not prepared to supply hard evidence.