Rules???

Agreed.  The correctly-costed one doesnt have the ribbon.

Unfortunately there are several errors/typos in the new cards.

It looks like the 7pt one has the ribbon?

I thought of third one that is basically just a combination of those:

Spread out the support pieces, and have each one earn different points on top of their ability.

HQ = Aircraft points
Ammo Dump = Soldier points
Fuel Depot = Vehicle points

It adds more strategy as to what you want to hold. I’d say 2 ammo dumps, 1 HQ, and 1 fuel depot would probably make it the most fun.

@Motdc:

With these new rules, you cannot start the game with your 88 or Bofors loaded on a transport, move to a drop location on turn 1, and dismount it.

How is that not broken!?

Agreed, this needs to be fixed.

I’m thinking they are opening pandoras box.

Yes, you used to be able to bump an isolated infantry every now and then, but it was easy to fugure out.

If you wait until the end of the turn it will a nightmare to manage.

As you said, you move 2 Inf into a hax that already conatins two inf.  The two original Inf now try charge forward in an MG and get disrupted so they cannot move.  But its the end of the turn and you’ve moved a dozen units.  Now what, you have to “unmove” the first two Inf that you moved to fix the overstack, hoping you remember which hexes they came from?

It gets insanely worse with vehicles.

No, that will break the game.  They’ve done some odd things in the past, but this will break the game.

I have to beileve that the rule will be different than we are guessing.  Something like, any unit that is overstacked cannot Attack.  So you can overstack all you want, but if you dont resolve it by the end of the turn then that unit is pretty much a hood ornament.  Or something equally different.

Thanks for the heads up, we’ll all have to keep our eyes peeled.

Zimistry:

you must be some kind of genius.

all i can add is Avalon Hill is run by fantasy game idiots who spend all their time playing D&D when they were young and latched on to AH because they figured: “gee i can remain an idiot, get paid, and support a company based on other idiots besides myself”

WOTC has no idea what their targeted audience is because they wont accept that its still primarily wargamers who were with them back in the day, but they view everything through a constant reminder of being the company with the next “Magic: the gathering” cash cow because they desperately want to be a caterer to those young misfits with plenty of money from mommy. They should stick to grinding it out making legitimate games. When they have an idea its usually get in some hot designer, rub him down, and hope he can pull out a winner for the team.

Its almost like how Al Davis of the Raiders always gets these washed up guys who were great 5 years ago, and think all you do is take a chance on them only to get junked with another defeat. Its a cheap way to sell tickets, but does little to provide a constant steady cash flow and rather the sales go up and down like an elevator. AH want to do business by peaks and valleys and thats why they alienate people like you and me and don’t care.

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Changing facing doesn’t take up movement “points.”  When you get to your destination hex, you can face whichever hex side you wish.  And instead of moving to another hex, you can change facing within the same hex.

However, if you are face-up disrupted, you cannot change facing, because you cannot move.  And if defensive fire or a failed movement roll stops your movement, you must stop facing the hex you tried to enter.

For the exact rules wording, go to the Avalon Hill webpage and download the rules.

More rules help questions from a differnet newbie:

@djensen:

Each attack at the opposing unit must beat the defense.

Does this mean that each attack is set up completely seperately?  Is there no way to combine fire against one opponent?

Rules clarification time for me in this made up scenario:

Lets say my opponent has an M26 Pershing tank with armor 7/6 and Superior Armor 2.

I have a Messerschmitt Me 110 w/ an attack on vehicles of 5 at short range and 4 at medium range;
three Mauser Kar 98ks with attacks of 2 at short range and one SS Stormstrooper with an attack of 8 since he is at 0 range;
and one Pak 38 artillery piece with attacks of 11/9/7 respectively.

How can I attack the tank?

Is the plane completely useless?  The best he could do in his phase is 5 sucssess, but that won’t do anything on it’s own.  Are the three Kar 98ks inefective as well, since they could individually only have 2 sucssess?  Even the Stormtrooper at his best could only disrupt the tank with 7 or 8 sucssess.  And the Pak 38 would have to have a tremendous shot even at close range just to touch the Pershing.

Is this correct?